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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by ngneer on Monday January 27, 2020 @11:01PM (#22166331)
When the market rewards secure design, you can make that complaint. Since the market does not reward secure design, expect investments in security to be commensurate. You cannot have it both ways.
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by mlyle on Monday January 27, 2020 @11:30PM (#22166469)
The market is noticing that we're losing a whole lot of performance on Intel to these security-related mitigations, though...
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by empiricus on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @01:51AM (#22167052)
Intel reports record profits again.
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by mlyle on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @02:46AM (#22167267)
This doesn't mean that Intel hasn't been affected negatively by the resurgence of AMD in the processor business. AMD is taking several billion dollars of revenue, and every dollar of that costs Intel much more than $1. A noticeable part of AMD's newfound competitiveness comes from the various performance taxes that Intel has had to pay for speculative execution mitigation.

It's worth noting, too, that Intel has diversified-- the processor business is only one very important business to Intel.

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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by xondono on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:04AM (#22168949)
Profit in infrastructure is a delayed indicator, it talks about how the company was doing, not how is it doing now.
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by ngneer on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @02:28AM (#22167191)
Thank you. Apparently, the stockholders agree with my assessment.
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by mlyle on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @02:46AM (#22167270)
See here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22167267
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by az656 on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @05:26AM (#22168059)
I work for Intel (not speaking in my official capacity) and the AMD scare here is real.
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Re:CacheOut: Leaking Data on Intel CPUs via Cache Evictions by guug on Monday January 27, 2020 @11:25PM (#22166444)
Not a complaint but merely stating the obvious.
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