I won’t buy an iPad: ten years later

Re:I won’t buy an iPad: ten years later by snowwrestler on Monday January 27, 2020 @04:32PM (#22164015)

Google Search is not operating in China at all, and when they did, they censored search results at the request of the Chinese government.

And here in the U.S. the Google story today includes not just the services they provide for free, both also the personal data they collect and correlate.

My point here is not whether Google or Apple is better, my point is that since 2010, we have collectively learned that the web is not as open or resistant to surveillance and censorship as it once seemed it would be. Again: there are trade-offs, and some folks look at those trade-offs differently a decade later.

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Re:I won’t buy an iPad: ten years later by fauigerzigerk on Monday January 27, 2020 @04:58PM (#22164276)

>my point is that since 2010, we have collectively learned that the web is not as open or resistant to surveillance and censorship as it once seemed it would be.

That's undeniably true, but it doesn't mean that anyone exercises "at least the same level of gatekeeping" on the Web as Apple does on Apple devices.

And Google operating or not operating in China is beside the point. I'm talking about the structure of the Web, not about Google specifically. That's why I said "or anyone else". No private company owns the Web like Apple owns the only iOS distribution channel.

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