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Re:One of biggest frauds in U.S. farm history by eikenberry on Saturday January 25, 2020 @07:25PM (#22149559)
Inspection and certification programs don't need to be government run to be effective. Kosher certification programs are the first example that comes to mind.

I'm just trying to say you can argue for more, better inspections without having to argue for "big government".

Re:One of biggest frauds in U.S. farm history by wbl on Saturday January 25, 2020 @08:47PM (#22149860)
Kosher certification has a bunch of complexities. There are several big national certification authorities, but they have different standards, with Tablet-K accepting some things in the realm of cheese production others don't. Some small local hechshers provide more supervision then the national chains, but piggyback for the tough halachic questions.

And then there is the whole milk thing, where kashrut organizations have largely said that the FDA is enforcing the rule better then they can, so they won't bother, but some consumers don't think this is good enough.

There is also a controversy over slaughterhouse conditions brought to light when a kosher slaughterhouse was raided by the agriculture department for health violations.

Re:One of biggest frauds in U.S. farm history by 75dvtwin on Saturday January 25, 2020 @10:38PM (#22150236)
I agree with you as well.

I think country-wide, there need to be, usually, 3-bodied system of inspection/certification (whether it is financial organizations, law firms, doctors, educational or food suppliers.. ).

one organization should be multi-state collaboration of supervision & certification.

The other should be industry collaboration of supervision & certification.

And 3rd -- is academia-powered.

Any business claiming to have certificate in something needs to strive to get it from all 3. 2 out 3 may be acceptable, and 1 out of 3 is not.

This model would prevent corruption that more likely occurred in single-bodied systems.

Re:One of biggest frauds in U.S. farm history by horomeme on Sunday January 26, 2020 @02:57AM (#22151020)
The industry org will hollow the others into facades. Proxies for public relations in service of the heads of industry. Happens every time. But kudos for going full anti-democracy from the start.
Re:One of biggest frauds in U.S. farm history by AdrianB1 on Sunday January 26, 2020 @05:40AM (#22151441)
What does this have to do with democracy, pro- or anti-?