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Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by Jaygles on Saturday January 25, 2020 @11:44AM (#22147062)
I don't think I'm ever going to get over what.cd getting taken down. After it disappeared my new music discovery has plummeted.
Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by armitron on Saturday January 25, 2020 @04:11PM (#22148637)
You can join one of the successor trackers. Though, I expect them to be taken down in turn when they become more well-known.

The centralized private tracker model has a fatal flaw in that it's too easy to take down and all the work/hours people put in in curating and creating metadata ultimately wasted.

There are alternative models where the metadata is distributed but so far nothing has really caught on.

Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by rowathray on Saturday January 25, 2020 @11:46AM (#22147087)
Ever heard of Apple Music? Spotify? Youtube?
Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by NoahTheDuke on Saturday January 25, 2020 @11:51AM (#22147113)
Laughable to compare the obsessive curation of music on what.cd with any of those platforms, not to mention the fidelity and the vast range, far exceeding what’s available on the other platforms.
Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by HeWhoLurksLate on Saturday January 25, 2020 @12:31PM (#22147368)
@rowathray

It's not so much because of the pirating that this service was successful, it's because of the dedicated userbase it held.

If something like what.cd integrated with something like Spotify- a legitimate way of accessing lots of music- say "here's a button to stream" somewhere on the site, it would probably be successful.

Mind you, one of the other reasons that these sorts of things with torrent or whatever backends get so popular is because there isn't a particular gatekeeper that can decide what can and can't be on the platform [1.] Destroying and damaging the effort of people who help your platform on their spare time tends to garner ill will.

[1] Spotify removing R. Kelly and XXXTentacion from their service: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8455549/new-spot...

Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by Carpetsmoker on Sunday January 26, 2020 @01:23AM (#22150721)
I would pay for what.cd. In fact, I did pay. I think I donated about €200 at some point.

The entire experience of what.cd was just amazing, and services like Spotify are lacking a lot. The situation is better than a few years ago, but still very far from perfect.

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Re:Why Lobste.rs Is Better Than Hacker News by pirateyarr on Thursday January 30, 2020 @12:57PM (#22193512)
>you never found new ways to discover music?

Yes. But they are nowhere close to the ways you could discover with it. Spotify's playlists doesn't even compare.

>Oh kay. More like you just liked stealing from creative professionals.

Ofc.

In fact, there are studies that show that piracy helps the industry. And I bet the biggest winners are the creators themselves, as they are the ones that profit the most from exposure. Musicians get more more from concerts than albuns sales.