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Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:42AM (#22139846)
Why are Google and Facebook in the same jail?

What breach of privacy is Google guilty of?

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by prophesi on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:44AM (#22139872)
Historically speaking, Google is the one who innovates ground-breaking privacy-violating technology, and Facebook copies them a year or two later with much less tact.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:54AM (#22140010)
Name the privacy violating technology. How and please be specific. I can give examples of FB violating user privacy. Cambridge Analytica.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by newscracker on Friday January 24, 2020 @04:34PM (#22142690)
There are too many to list. An online search is a better idea.

Here are two instances:

Google was (and probably still is) tracking your location on Android even when you turned off location services and storing it against your account.

Google signed you in automatically into Chrome whenever you signed in to a Google property. This change removed the ability to keep your Chrome browsing data strictly locally. After some Internet outrage, this was reversed.

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by prophesi on Friday January 24, 2020 @12:25PM (#22140380)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_concerns_regarding_Goo...

They are the pioneers of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism

For specific technologies: Their search engine. Their Ad network. Google Maps / StreetView. Android OS. Google Home. Google Nest. Google Chrome. Chromebooks.

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by fenwick67 on Friday January 24, 2020 @12:11PM (#22140219)
> What breach of privacy is Google guilty of

Some people would consider tracking users across the entire web and selling ads based on their behavior to be disrespectful of privacy. Google hasn't had any big fuck-ups like Facebook with CA, but ultimately they both are advertising companies that owe their success to selling personalized ads.

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @12:37PM (#22140494)
They are very different ad companies.

One shows ads along side search results based on what you are looking for... FB snoops on me and shoves cereal ads at me like street corner flyer pushers.

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by newscracker on Friday January 24, 2020 @04:37PM (#22142716)
Correction, Google shows ads based on what you search for, which locations you visit, who you communicate with, what kind of photos you take, who’s in the photos you take and so on. All the data collected by Google is intended and used to shove ads to you, since ads is the biggest money earner for Google by a huge margin. None of the Google services are provided “free” out of some benevolence.

If you’re using Android, Google has been snooping on you a lot more often than Facebook could dream of.

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sp332 on Friday January 24, 2020 @09:26PM (#22144226)
You know Google owns an ad network right? They show ads on lots of sites around the internet, not just on Google search results. They use data from Google Analytics to track you around the web.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by cattlemansgold on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:51AM (#22139981)
He is saying that he is uncomfortable with so much detailed and important information being owned by one entity, not explicitly accusing Google of leaking his info.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:57AM (#22140042)
Then it's two separate articles. Google and Facebook are not the same when it comes to privacy. This article throws them together in the same bucket and it's really unfair to Google.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by ethanbond on Friday January 24, 2020 @12:34PM (#22140474)
Their business model.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sp332 on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:47AM (#22139912)
The ad network?
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:53AM (#22139994)
How? All the info about me is with Google and no 3rd party knows my private info.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sp332 on Friday January 24, 2020 @01:11PM (#22140896)
First, I'd rather Google not have it. I consider Google having it to be a breach of my privacy.

But besides that, any time someone clicks an ad, Google gives information about that person to the advertiser.

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @01:16PM (#22140935)
You can absolutely tell google not to store your information.

When you buy a shoe with your credit card at a store you are giving your personal information, isn't clicking on an ad similar?

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by newscracker on Friday January 24, 2020 @04:41PM (#22142740)
> You can absolutely tell google not to store your information

...except for all the times when Google did collect and store your information despite you telling it not to (look online for location tracking on Android).

Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @06:53PM (#22143496)
This article was about search . I am referring to Google search engine. People have diluted the argument by introducing Android. Google search and Facebook should not be in the same equation.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sp332 on Friday January 24, 2020 @09:28PM (#22144231)
Then you should limit "Facebook" to just mean browsing on Facebook's website. If you're going to include the other kinds of data the FB organization collects about you, you should include that for Google as well.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @10:06PM (#22144361)
You are reaching here trying to give new meaning to established product. Facebook's model is fundamentally to exploit it's users with no regard for privacy.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sp332 on Friday January 24, 2020 @01:36PM (#22141109)
Yes, I would also be ticked off if the shoe store sold off my personal info, or really used it for any reason other than selling me shoes.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @06:56PM (#22143515)
You can remain anonymous with Google.

With Facebook you just cannot be an anonymous user.

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Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by senthil_rajasek on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:52AM (#22139985)
I gave Google permission to show that. They have done a good job.
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sbmthakur on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:46AM (#22139899)
How's that information relevant here?
Re:What can you use instead of Google and Facebook? by sbmthakur on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:45AM (#22139890)