Re:US Department of Justice Argues Assange Has No First Amen...
by ameister14 on Friday January 24, 2020 @09:58AM
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Interestingly enough, the phrasing in the article implies that the Justice Department is arguing that speech made outside the US is not protected, not simply speech made by non-citizens.
I would be incredibly surprised if that argument held up.
Re:US Department of Justice Argues Assange Has No First Amen...
by bumby on Friday January 24, 2020 @10:46AM
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See Anwar al-Awlaki for some evidence of how the US applies constitutional rights to citizens abroad when they are considered enemies of the state
Re:US Department of Justice Argues Assange Has No First Amen...
by ameister14 on Friday January 24, 2020 @12:20PM
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Was that legally supported? I think it just wasn't challenged
Re:US Department of Justice Argues Assange Has No First Amen...
by bumby on Friday January 24, 2020 @02:48PM
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ACLU challenged with multiple cases. As far as I know they were dismissed
https://www.aclu.org/cases/al-aulaqi-v-obama-constitutional-...
https://www.aclu.org/cases/al-aulaqi-v-panetta-constitutiona...
I think it’s generally well established that rights travel abroad with citizens. However, it’s less clear if they apply abroad (or even to U.S. territories) to non-citizens. E.g. United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez claims it does not apply to non-citizens who do not have a voluntary association with the U.S.
Edit: I'll try to be more clear. The rights of U.S. citizens extend beyond the border when dealing with the U.S. government. I was not implying other governments must recognize U.S. Constitutional rights when dealing with U.S. citizens.