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Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by dmix on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:55PM (#22130514)
As this builds up there will be a wide open market opportunity for a privacy-conscious appliance manufacturer. Maybe combined with good/minimalist design like Nest - minus the forced cloud stuff. Plus some design work on the internals to make them easy to repair/replace parts.

Shenzhen and other places is full of talent capable of fulfilling this niche.

All it takes is a brave soul to go out and try it.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by giarc on Thursday January 23, 2020 @01:58PM (#22130549)
>privacy-conscious appliance manufacturer.... like Nest

Nest is now owned by Google. Nest also had installed microphones in their units without telling consumers prior to being purchased by Google.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by dmix on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:01PM (#22130581)
Yes... which I mentioned in the very next sentence. Way to take the Nest part completely out of context, which I was referencing only in regards to offering a clean/minimal designed home appliances.

I'm convinced privacy-conscious smart products which keep things as local as possible combined with good simple design is applicable to so many niches. Including routers.

Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by giarc on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:44PM (#22131773)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like your original comment left out the "Maybe combined with good/minimalist design...".
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by vearwhershuh on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:03PM (#22130615)
My fear is that the only way to get decent industrial design, like the nest, is to finance it with consumer spying.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by bluGill on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:28PM (#22130898)
My thermostat from 1990 still works fine. It will have to continue to work fine for a while longer until I can trust more modern ones. If you connect to the internet you have no business controlling my house's heat. I'm not paying $$$ to someone to get my heat back on.
Re:My fridge has an RFID chip in the water filter, so a gene... by dmix on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:52PM (#22131140)
Well that's the current standard model so that's understandable. But I think consumers, especially early adopters and even Apple execs, are becoming conscious of the need and demand for privacy.

If I was a VC I'd be looking for someone to invest in which offers both modern digitized equipment without the total privacy/security sacrifice.