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Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by TheOtherHobbes on Thursday January 23, 2020 @04:57AM (#22126239)
STEM people have a real blind spot with this.

Who runs the world? Not STEM people. Most politicians have a legal and/or liberal background. They may also have a background in STEM - particularly likely in Europe, less so in the US - but you get nowhere in politics without studying and understanding foundational liberal arts skills such as rhetoric, persuasion, and public debate.

The idea that liberal arts majors spend their entire time writing on essentially useless activities - like post-structural critiques of famous literature - is hilariously naive.

Some liberal arts academics do indeed do this, but that's because the liberal arts have pure and applied elements. Just like STEM. And STEM academics also spend their time on wildly impractical theoretical pastimes.

But at the applied end, the liberal arts run the planet. They don't keep the lights on - engineers do that - but they set the policy goals and define the political, economic, moral, and philosophical orthodoxies that virtually everyone conforms to, whether or not they're consciously aware of it.

Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by SuoDuanDao on Thursday January 23, 2020 @08:20AM (#22127279)
Funnily enough, most politicians* are from law backgrounds... which while it falls on the 'arts' side of the spectrum is definitely a specialized field and vocation.

I suspect that the dichotomy isn't so much 'STEM vs Arts' but 'Accountable vs Unaccountable'. Most STEM fields are accountable to reality and future employers, and law is similarly accountable to rival scholars of law and employers of new lawyers. That makes law a rather noteworthy outlier in the liberal arts.

*in western countries

Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by triceratops on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:53PM (#22131156)
Physics, math, chemistry, logic, biology, history, geography, geology, astronomy, even economics are "accountable to reality". They are all liberal arts. Your idea of liberal arts is incomplete.
Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by SuoDuanDao on Thursday January 23, 2020 @08:05PM (#22134321)
Are you accepting the dichotomy of STEM and Liberal Arts, and then categorising math as a liberal art?

Do you know the M in STEM stands for 'Mathematics'?

Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by triceratops on Friday January 24, 2020 @02:32PM (#22141648)
I think it's pretty clear from my posts that I'm not accepting this dichotomy - the "S" is science. Most sciences and math are firmly in the realm of liberal arts. I believe the argument is over how much T & E there needs to be in school and college education.
Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by AstralStorm on Thursday January 23, 2020 @12:27PM (#22129527)
And quite a few politicians have an equivalent of economics degree.

Those fields are in neighborhood of STEM more than old "liberal arts" standard of language, foreign language, art (painting or music) and history. (Note: no ethics or philosophy.)

Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by majos on Thursday January 23, 2020 @07:13AM (#22126904)
> you get nowhere in politics without studying and understanding foundational liberal arts skills such as rhetoric, persuasion, and public debate

I’m skeptical that attainment of political power is easily attributed to a good liberal arts education. I think desire for power, some intelligence, and a relaxed relationship with principles go a long way. Well-crafted rhetoric...eh.

Re:Those Mythological "Jobs Of Tomorrow" by AstralStorm on Thursday January 23, 2020 @12:29PM (#22129558)
A lot of practice comes a long way. A few truly top politicians were also actors. (Not necessarily very good ones.)