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Re:U.S. surveillance laws have proven ineffective at counter... by jhayward on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @04:23PM (#22122204)
That quote doesn't mean what many people assume it does.

Franklin was actually supporting the authority of government to act/govern in the interest of collective security. [1]

[1] https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famou...

Re:U.S. surveillance laws have proven ineffective at counter... by ta999999171 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @12:46AM (#22125149)
The tyrants quote is harder to misunderstand.