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Re:Burnout: 'Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired' by ignoramous on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @07:36AM (#22116972)
> Their model is to hire fresh people and burn them out.

When I was at Amazon, this was the feeling with some employees around me: The stack-ranking meant they were made to a rat-race every year.

I can't seem to recall who, but someone higher-up let it slip when quizzed about higher attrition rate (back in 2010s) that Amazon believed in evolution, and that that meant the slow would eventually give the way for the fast and new. Someone even quipped in an internal email-list that employees were about 8th most important resource to Amazon right after the 7th most important resource: The paper-clips.

Interestingly, and in my observation, the managers got more leeway than individual contributors in terms of evolving slowly. I've also seen rest and vest among managers, but rarely among the engineers. Strange power imbalances, if you ask me, existed and could be felt across every organization I worked for.

Re:Burnout: 'Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired' by blaser-waffle on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @11:37AM (#22119013)
I was wondering if/when Amazon would get mentioned in this thread, lol.

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Cop-out rationalization: conventional wisdom holds that IT/CS folks should jump every 2-3 years or they're leaving money on the table -- and turnover rates reflect that. They're going in 2 years anyway, so get what you want out of them before they go. Most of them can't write fizzbuzz anyway, and it's easy to poach better talent by throwing money at them.

> Interestingly, and in my observation, the managers got more leeway than individual contributors in terms of evolving slowly

Managers run the system, so the system evolves to support them and their needs, like a more reasonable pace. Another way to look at it is if you've made it through the burnout phase then you're going to hang around longer, so it makes sense to hold on to proven performers who have much longer employment horizons.

Re:Burnout: 'Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired' by coldcode on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @08:18AM (#22117261)
In my first job back in the 80's a VP sent out a memo to everyone about the importance of reusing paperclips.

Naturally it had the opposite effect of us dumping boxes of them in the trash.

Re:Burnout: 'Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired' by smallcharleston on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:21PM (#22124249)
That seems a bit odd. Maybe he’s not an effective manager, but why would you go out of your way to not do what he asked?
Re:Burnout: 'Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired' by coldcode on Thursday January 23, 2020 @08:05AM (#22127160)
Defense Contractor.
Re:Burnout: 'Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired' by P_I_Staker on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:07AM (#22117610)
I don't find that strange at all. People in power protect their power and cushy life while exploiting others.