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Re:Short Term Rental (2018) by thisisastopsign on Monday January 20, 2020 @11:33PM (#22104331)
I have a rental property that is in an HOA and I rent it out. What are you inferring?
Re:Short Term Rental (2018) by tingletech on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @01:36AM (#22104750)
I'm not sure the exact point of the grand parent post -- but for a multi-unit building with the units titled as condos (which would usually have an owner's association) the rules for getting conventional financing in the US (I'm spacing on what those are called) dictate a certain percentage of the units must be owner occupied, lest the loans are not re-sellable in the secondary mortgage markets.

Condo HOAs will thus sometimes try to pass rules or amend bylaws to establish rental restrictions of various sorts -- most commonly setting a minimum lease term, but sometimes trying to set percentages of units that must be owner occupied, limiting the numbers of units that can be owned by a single owner, or establishing a time frame a unit must be owner occupied before it can be rented.

My understanding is that most of the new apartment buildings they are building around me in Oakland and trying to rent out are "pre-converted" or already titled as condos -- but as the investors are renting them out generally there is no HOA to speak of as there is one owner. But, should market conditions change, common areas and separate titles are already established so less paperwork would be required to sell off the units.

Re:Short Term Rental (2018) by ohazi on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @02:21AM (#22104945)
Is your rental property a house or a condo?

I'm asserting that buying a detached house that falls under an HOA is something that should generally be avoided. With a house, there are rarely shared resources that actually need to be managed so any potential benefit is minimal at best, and bad HOAs can be a nightmare, so the risk is high.

I'm also lamenting the fact that developers building new neighborhoods of detached houses (e.g. in places like Austin) are apparently putting almost all of them under HOAs, perhaps because of some legal meme that doing so somehow reduces risk for the developer, or increases sale prices. I think this is an unfortunate trend.

Re:Short Term Rental (2018) by thisisastopsign on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @01:27PM (#22109812)
Ya, I have a detached house. I’ve noticed the trend with HOAs being established by the builder. You’re right that there’s minimum shared property generally. Fortunately, every HOA I’ve been in has been good. On the other hand, I’ve looked in areas without HOAs and people didn’t take care of their property or yards, which drove their neighbor’s home value down (the deals seemed good enough to buy, until you drove up and saw your future neighbors).
Re:Short Term Rental (2018) by imtringued on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @07:27AM (#22106291)
Yes that sounds counterproductive. Multi-family buildings obviously need a central organisation because things like the elevator, roof, etc are shared infrastructure that requires funding from all occupants. A detached house can be fully owned by the occupant or the landlord. There is no need for middlemen.
Re:Short Term Rental (2018) by lotsofpulp on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @05:52AM (#22105807)
In my experience, most people want HOAs.