Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999)

Re:Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999) by stopmi on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:40AM (#2209505)

"that which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof"

and why give weight to the ramblings of the religious but not to all schizophrenics?

shouldn't we give both views equal respect without calling to reason?

edit: referring to the "difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences/delusions/hallucinations" symptoms when i said schizophrenics

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Re:Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999) by dasil003 on Saturday February 12, 2011 @02:00AM (#2209530)

> "that which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof"

Exactly! And vice versa!

Who said anything about "giving weight" to "ramblings"? You are fixated on everything being about truth and facts and who's right, but that's not what I'm talking about.

Maybe you don't want anything bigger than observable facts and theories based thereupon in your life, but I hope when your parents say they love you you don't tell yourself that it's simply endorphins firing in their brains.

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Re:Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999) by stopmi on Saturday February 12, 2011 @02:37AM (#2209594)

"You are fixated on everything being about truth and facts and who's right"

would you rather i countered an argument with untruths and lies?

what i'm trying to say is, if you are willing to give credibility to any assertion which is without proof, then you have to give an equal amount to credibility to _all_ assertions without proof

i.e, all religions equally, fairies, leprechauns, elfs, russel's teapot, a furry-god, Elvis still alive, alien-invasions and abductions, etc..

and problems arise then, if you give credibility to _all_ religions, there will be contradictions

- they have different creation stories and timelines

- multiple 'unique' prophets

- multiple 'chosen' tribe/people

etc..

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Re:Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999) by doorhammer on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:50AM (#2209520)

If a schizophrenic developed an elegant solution for highly efficient, commercially viable solar-panels, I'd probably listen intently to his views on semiconductors, while politely opting out of the dissertation on talking toast.

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Re:Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999) by stopmi on Saturday February 12, 2011 @02:29AM (#2209579)

heh.. or recruiting people to jump into the lion's den at the zoo to give it a hug?

edited my parent comment to make it clearer

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Re:Larry Wall on religion and Perl culture (1999) by baddox on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:45AM (#2209515)

Schizophrenia isn't what you think it is.

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