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Re:Clearview AI helps law enforcement match photos of people... by deogeo on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:18PM (#22085967)
> I've yet to see privacy advocates identify actual undeserved harms that have come to people as a result of the technology that they want to regulate.

Harms like protesters getting identified, in Hong Kong and elsewhere?

Re:Clearview AI helps law enforcement match photos of people... by quotemstr on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:23PM (#22086008)
Why do protesters have an expectation of privacy? You go out in public and someone might see you there. If you're a peaceful protester, it shouldn't matter. If you're performing criminal acts while protesting, you should be stopped.

I see a lot of people saying that it's terrible that protesters might be identified. I think at least some of these people are secretly upset that people can't break windows and burn cars with impunity.

Re:Clearview AI helps law enforcement match photos of people... by deogeo on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:50PM (#22086214)
> Why do protesters have an expectation of privacy?

You asked about harm. Expectation of privacy is a different matter. And they might expect privacy due to wearing masks - why is it okay to regulate those, but not facial recognition? While I'm against regulating facial recognition, I'm at least aware of the harm it causes.

> If you're a peaceful protester, it shouldn't matter.

It shouldn't, but it does. If the government and corporations were so perfect that it wouldn't matter, you wouldn't be protesting in the first place.

> I think at least some of these people are secretly upset that people can't break windows and burn cars with impunity.

This is a pure ad hominem, and not a very good one either. The motivations of an imagined 'some' people are irrelevant to the harms of surveillance and facial recognition.

Re:Clearview AI helps law enforcement match photos of people... by ericd on Saturday January 18, 2020 @02:34PM (#22086517)
Governments might decide they want to retaliate against peaceful protesters, if the peaceful protests are causing problems for their agenda. This would have a tremendous chilling effect on protest.
Re:Clearview AI helps law enforcement match photos of people... by quotemstr on Saturday January 18, 2020 @02:49PM (#22086632)
Governments have retaliated against protesters for centuries. They don't need face recognition to do it. Even now, motivated individuals regularly identify and shame individuals involved in various public demonstrations. I find this fixation on the anti-protest use case of facial recognition to be very bizarre. Is a ban on smart doorbell cameras really going to prevent a state actor doing what it wants?