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Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by aSplash0fDerp on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:47AM (#22084407)
Cloud is dead.

Games stop working, lifelong memories are erased (yahoo groups,photo sites), watches stop being smart (pebble) and even smarthomes become a complete waste of an investment.

Bare-metal will always be sexy (and higher maintenance), but prosumer tech is not there yet to fill-in all the gaps in smarthomes.

IMO, once we start seeing inexpensive 10TB-100TB home storage appliances, we'll start to see more tech engineered for decade+ operations.

Over 99% of tech is disposible. Just the data is carried over, so you're lucky if you get 5 years use out of any device nowadays. 10 years is pushing it, even for smarthomes.

Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by TeMPOraL on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:40AM (#22084965)
I don't think the storage is the problem. Everything in computing scales up with available storage - apps, documents, media, all just get larger to compensate. If we couldn't solve this with readily available 100GB drives, or 1TB drives, why would we suddenly be able to with 10TB drives?
Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by swiley on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:53AM (#22084434)
The problem is that normal people no longer have a machine at home that’s always left on. As much as I dislike apple, their Apple TV might be one of the things that pushes everyone in the direction of owning their IOT network.

There’s also (IMO) a serious lack of open source tools for managing IOT devices. Right now a lot of the cheaper ones speak PnPP but there’s only one functional client I was able to find for this (a buggy and obscure GTK app.) There are a lot of good libraries though so maybe that will change.

Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by the8472 on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:27AM (#22084584)
> The problem is that normal people no longer have a machine at home that’s always left on.

They do, their router. The better models are half a home server anyway. They have wifi, USB for storage, do voip, have direct internet access (no NAT issues!). They would be an ideal platform for home automation.

Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by TeMPOraL on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:42AM (#22084973)
Except that they usually don't own it, they rent it from the ISP.

I think the concept of home server - some box you buy separately from Internet connection - is a concept that needs more marketing, until it becomes normalized.

Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by Nextgrid on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:31PM (#22088716)
Microsoft used to make Windows Home Server, a server OS with a simplified UI on top. Shame it didn't take off and they killed it.
Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by mrr54 on Sunday January 19, 2020 @02:56AM (#22090076)
No they rent the modem from their ISP.
Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @07:14AM (#22106229)
IME, it's typically an integrated router and cable modem.