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Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by avian on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:06AM (#22084217)
> Ideally in a form that would also work when the company closes shop

You typically already have to provide full hardware schematic when submitting an electronic product to test labs to get various certifications.

It doesn't seem that far fetched that you would also have to submit server software and the certification house would keep it in escrow in case you go bankrupt.

I don't think it's realistic to expect that will happen though.

Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by paulgb on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:11AM (#22084239)
Code escrow isn't unheard of in B2B software. Maybe enough people will be burned by companies bricking their hardware that it will happen with B2C, too?
Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by tcd on Saturday January 18, 2020 @08:15AM (#22084255)
Let's assume product uses domain.com to get updates.

domain.com one day might be owned by $badDude - that's a huge risk

domain.com might return 404's - that's pretty terrible.

What happens to domain.com once $business is now $noLongerBusiness?

You can provide a method of flashing firmware onto the device itself (possible security risk?), but where do you get the files from? How do you verify they're safe?

Then, you need to host the server software itself (depending on how it's coded, that ranges from quite simple to your worst nightmare), and you expect someone to keep that secure? The EU dictates GDPR compliance, which adds additional cost to maintenance.

It's just easier and cheaper to just not bother with servers if the company can't keep them online.

Re:Smart homes will turn dumb overnight as Charter kills sec... by vbezhenar on Saturday January 18, 2020 @10:18AM (#22084853)
Let user change server domain. Firmware must be signed by certificate with that domain. So now user can change server domain to his own server (or someone he trusts) and sign firmware with that key. It poses no security risk.