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Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by eej71 on Friday January 17, 2020 @03:40PM (#22079014)
While its not a universal construct - it is challenging to look at the history of many cultures who arrived at a similar distribution of labor and the behavior of other mammals and not wonder if men and women aren't inherently different in some generalized way that isn't readily alterable.

For those of us on the other side of the debate, there is always this vague sense of some people are underestimating the impact of these intrinsic differences.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by csb6 on Sunday January 19, 2020 @10:41AM (#22091971)
Lots of things were/are found in many unrelated human societies, such as slavery, which was found all over the world for thousands of years and still exists in many places/forms today. Something being common isn’t an indication of whether or not it is intrinsic or “the only way”. We only make progress by challenging social structures and trying to improve them. Perhaps these kinds of commonalities exist all over because they are effective at controlling/enforcing oppression and power.

My point isn’t that men and women aren’t at all different, it’s that institutions use the “it’s human nature and it can’t be changed” argument to hide oppressive/coercive practices that are avoidable and able to be removed.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by kingdomcome50 on Friday January 17, 2020 @04:50PM (#22079820)
> For those of us on the other side of the debate, there is always this vague sense of some people are underestimating the impact of these intrinsic differences.

Nailed it.

Re:An alternative argument for why women leave STEM by amanaplanacanal on Friday January 17, 2020 @05:01PM (#22079926)
I suspect that this distribution of labor is not due to intrinsic differences, but came with the invention of agriculture, and what we are dealing with now is just that we are used to these structures. Hunter gatherers did something else, and now that we are not all subsistence farmers we can do something else again.