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Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by cogman10 on Friday January 17, 2020 @12:13PM (#22076648)
> If you had $1B for carbon negative tech, where would you invest it?

Renewable energy and electric transport.

Trying to pull carbon out of the atmosphere is like trying to pull salt out of water. It is far easier and less costly to avoid putting the salt there in the first place.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be invested in carbon extraction, but so long as we have large carbon emissions then the most efficient place for money to go is towards eliminating those. Cleanup should be secondary.

Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by marcosdumay on Friday January 17, 2020 @03:50PM (#22079136)
I see that a lot stated as a general rule, but in reality it depends. Have you ever looked on how many people are employed on taking salt out of sea water?

Sure, for most of the carbon we emit, it's easier to stop emitting it. But not all. We won't reach neutrality by cutting emissions alone.

Besides, we will need to take carbon out of the air to fix the climate after we stop breaking it.

Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by cogman10 on Friday January 17, 2020 @07:42PM (#22081286)
I don't disagree.

What I'm saying is that there is a lot of low hanging fruit to pluck. A 1 billion dollar solar plant could generate revenue to fund research while cutting emissions. A 1 billion dollar solar plant wouldn't eliminate all carbon output, not by a long shot.

It's a real action that could be done in less than a few years.

Until we get to a point where more solar doesn't decrease carbon output, more solar is the way to go.

Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by marcosdumay on Sunday January 19, 2020 @11:18AM (#22092174)
You know, the lowest hanging fruit right now isn't even energy generation. It is on insulating/ventilation of buildings. Despite that all the action is on energy generation, and for good reasons. The only of the low hanging problems that we really solved is illumination, and that took many years after we got a solution that was better than the older tech on every single way.

The same way, we can't wait for the generation problem to be solved before we start exploring the solutions for capture. We have to do everything all the time; just not with the same intensity.

Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by erikpukinskis on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:57PM (#22087570)
Are there any reasons to desalinate water besides geopolitical ones?
Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by marcosdumay on Sunday January 19, 2020 @11:10AM (#22092121)
Yes, there are places where it is really expensive to move water into.

But most of the time, people separate them to get the salt, not the water.

Re:Microsoft’s quest to go ‘carbon negative’ inspires $1B fund by eveningcoffee on Friday January 17, 2020 @12:23PM (#22076791)
I would also add here carbon dioxide extraction for carbon burning electricity plants. This carbon dioxide can be then used locally to grow new fuel for the plant.