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Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by fiaz on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @09:56AM (#220760)
This is a great move. But it only makes sense after a community with momentum is in full swing. The community experience is the driving force behind reddit/digg/HN/mixx/slashdot/etc successes, not the technology.
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by xirium on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @12:32PM (#220872)
> The community experience is the driving force behind reddit/digg/HN/mixx/slashdot/etc successes, not the technology.

Slashdot only went open source after they gained a lead with their own instance of the code. Slashdot only went open source after increasing demand from its community. Since going open source, Slashdot has subsequently gained bug fixes and a much more scalable implementation at reduced cost. However, I cannot name any other instances or derivatives of the code which are active - not even Squishdot Zope clones.

So, if you've got a big archive of posts and a large number of active users then open sourcing your code only entrenches your position by reducing costs.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by narag on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @05:39PM (#221209)
>However, I cannot name any other instances or derivatives of the code which are active

In Spain we have http://barrapunto.com much smaller but also using slashcode. IIRC there are also two more instances, one of them in Portugal.

Barrapunto added its own features for a long time, but they weren't incorporated to main branch, and after serious scalability and trolling problems arose, they reverted to regular slashcode.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by xirium on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @07:18PM (#221320)
> after serious scalability and trolling problems arose, they reverted to regular slashcode.

That's very pertinent because reddit haven't released code to reduce spam:

From the article: There are a few portions of the code that we're keeping to ourselves, mostly related to anti-cheating/spam protection.

Anyone deploying their own instance of the reddit code will have to develop their own protection against spam, trolling and rigged voting.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by Hexstream on Sunday June 22, 2008 @12:06AM (#224037)
I thought security by obscurity was wrong in all cases :(
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by rw on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @04:12PM (#221106)
open sourcing your code only entrenches your position by reducing costs.

A valuable observation, but seemingly only valid for frameworks and backends that are merely a glorified CMS.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by DougBTX on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @05:43PM (#221216)
> a glorified CMS

Much of the web is a glorified CMS, indexed by Google.

If your businesses produces value through human generated content[1], you should share your code to push down the cost of technology, undermining the market for people trying to sell similar but potentially innovative software to your competitors.

[1] as opposed to computer generated content, such as online catalogues or search indices.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by michaelneale on Thursday June 19, 2008 @03:28AM (#221620)
hehehe yes...

and a computer is just a collection of coloured pixels flickering a bit.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by andreyf on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @11:30AM (#220824)
The community experience is the driving force [...], not the technology.

Absolutely. I'd be much more impressed with a comprehensive API for votes/comments/stories.

Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by ph0rque on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @12:57PM (#220895)
Now you can write it...
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by andreyf on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @01:18PM (#220908)
I doubt they would include such a patch in reddit.com ... it's trivial to write, but their intention is keeping that information inside reddit, which is pretty evil, by Google standards.
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by spez on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @03:02PM (#221027)
Did you just make that up? We give data away all the time.
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by andreyf on Thursday June 19, 2008 @12:23AM (#221517)
Links, please? What I'm talking about is an open API like twitter or flickr's, so that people may make 3rd party apps or website that can do anything the website can.

Pretty much, I think it would be best for everyone to let people make reddit (or private reddits) the back-end infrastructure of all sites like news.YC, slashdot (just like flickr is a back-end for other people's sites).

This was submitted as a request well over a year ago:

http://www.reddit.com/info/1jhma/comments/

It's interesting that you commented on that thread, saying:

  adding the display templates is easy. what i'd be really concerned about is the db load, but that's solvable as well.
and also:

  We'd certainly do it. It just takes time, and that's a scarce resource at the moment.
It's been a year and two months since then... how much longer do you need? The data you have comes from the community... why not open automated access to it?
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by ph0rque on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @01:21PM (#220911)
Why not ask them? Even better, maybe they'll see this thread and respond...
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by Raphael on Wednesday June 18, 2008 @11:24PM (#221483)
They (spez) already did.
Re:Reddit goes open source - the actual announcement from re... by ph0rque on Thursday June 19, 2008 @08:03AM (#221711)
Compare the timestamps on my and Spez's comments.