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Re:The Roots of Lisp (2001) by tabtab on Thursday January 16, 2020 @07:37PM (#22070678)
Re: It takes time, for some it's hours, for others - weeks, but eventually you will stop seeing parentheses, and instead, you will see structure, consistency, and meaning. And Lisp becomes more readable than any other language you've used before.

I'd like to see a university test this theory. I suspect it's subjective and varies greatly per individual, but testing on say 100 random subjects could better resolve the Great Lisp Dispute.

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Re:The Roots of Lisp (2001) by iLemming on Thursday January 16, 2020 @10:34PM (#22071626)
Of course, it's subjective. Do you think everyone is born with an innate ability to read Javascript?

I don't know anything about music, but I feel this debate is like guitar tabs vs. standard music notation. I've heard, for example, that Paul McCartney doesn't know how to read music notation. "Yesterday" is still a masterpiece, though. Now imagine if Paul all his life advocated young musicians against musical notation, because "It's hard to learn to read it. And it's overrated."

The truth is - Lisp is fundamental and absolutely essential for anyone who chose a lifetime career in computer science. And it's not going anywhere, anytime soon. So please stop whining about it and at least get yourself familiar with it or stop calling yourself "a pro."

[Apologies for dramatization, the last part is not aimed at you personally. it's a general message for everyone.]

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Re:The Roots of Lisp (2001) by tabtab on Friday January 17, 2020 @11:54AM (#22076395)
I didn't say get rid of Lisp. It's indeed a great teaching tool. What I'm against is the implication that if one doesn't like it or use for production systems, they're doing something wrong or bad.
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