Re:Philosopher Philip Goff answers questions about panpsychism
by TuringTest on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @08:30AM
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How could I tell if there's consciousness in that simulated universe, when I can't tell whether other beings in this original universe are conscious?
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Re:Philosopher Philip Goff answers questions about panpsychism
by state_less on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:04PM
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If you replicate the universe, then the properties would hold from the reference and simulation. It shouldn't matter if we use information vs. whatever the reference implementation is using. We do this sort of thing when we simulate known systems, like a computer running in software.
So if there is conscious beings in the universe, it'll be in the simulation. You hold that you're conscious, so then I'd hope you'd agree the simulation has at least one conscious being in it.
I don't know why some folks consciousness test only seems to work for themselves. I've been convinced by the simple argument by induction: I am an example of an animal. I have consciousness, so others likely do too.
Re:Philosopher Philip Goff answers questions about panpsychism
by TuringTest on Thursday January 16, 2020 @07:33AM
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Induction is not proof :-) I'm also convinced, but primarily by Turing's argument ad politeness: "Instead of arguing continually over this point it is usual to have the polite convention that everyone thinks".[1]
I haven't really found a compelling rational argument to fully reject solipsism.
Though I agree that looking for yourself in a perfect simulation is a clever hack. :-)
[1] https://books.google.com/books?id=7pFHBAAAQBAJ&lpg=PT51&ots=...