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Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by akhilcacharya on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @01:32AM (#22042391)
Are you saying I have less value because I didn’t get into a top school? I went to a mid ranked state school and transferred credits from CC.
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by Barracoon on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @03:16PM (#22048813)
Based on how this thread is going, you seem to be projecting a lot of insecurity of what school you went to? Literally the words were "you will likely have a more difficult time being successful if you did not get a degree from a top school". Those words do not intrinsically say that someone who did not get a degree from a top school has less value.

It does not say that someone who did not go to a top school performs more poorly. It does not say that those who did not graduate from a top school are not good enough. All it says is that from a relative starting point, if you graduate from e.g. Harvard, you are more likely to be successful than if you did not.

My nitpicks with this premise are: is success defined in financial terms? Is it in position (CEO vs engineer)? What is the empirical evidence that graduating from a top school confers greater success (I think that there is such data, but citing it would be nice). There's enough stuff here to talk about that I am somewhat flabbergasted that you took this as a personal affront and misconstrue what's actually being talked about.

Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by akhilcacharya on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:14AM (#22052282)
> It does not say that those who did not graduate from a top school are not good enough. All it says is that from a relative starting point, if you graduate from e.g. Harvard, you are more likely to be successful than if you did not.

These seem like they’re saying the same thing. If people like me were considered “good enough” OP wouldn’t have said that to begin with and CC to state school would have been fine

Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by bradlys on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @04:58AM (#22043346)
Nope. Saying you're likely to have a more difficult time getting to prestigious places than someone who graduated from Stanford/(insert top school).
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by akhilcacharya on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @10:49AM (#22045868)
That’s.. saying the same thing.

How are you even defining prestigious? Am I incapable of doing so? Please explain.

Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by bradlys on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @02:26PM (#22048309)
Prestigious would be - FAANG/Uber-adjacent/whatever-competitive-admission-company.

You might work at Amazon - that's fine - congrats. I'm saying that it's /more difficult/ to get there on average than if you had gone to Stanford. You're more likely to get overlooked for another candidate who has all the same credentials you do but went to Stanford instead of generic school.

Just because you did it does not mean that it's a completely level playing field.

Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by imtringued on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @08:24AM (#22044488)
You will have a harder time because half the value in a degree is the easy HR filtering. HR isn't willing to spend a lot of time to find the needle in the haystack. They are always on the lookout for heuristics that have no false positives and a degree from a top school is a pretty good heuristic.
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by commandlinefan on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @10:01AM (#22045268)
He may not be saying so, but the recruiters at Google are.
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by akhilcacharya on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @10:46AM (#22045827)
I work at Amazon. Is OP implying that is not good enough or something?
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by mav3rick on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @04:45AM (#22052949)
It's not elite. Doesn't carry same weight. Tech is also less "pedigree" driven. You would definitely have a hard time in Business tacks without elite schools.
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by akhilcacharya on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:53AM (#22054616)
In what sense does it not carry the same weight?
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by mav3rick on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:25PM (#22057528)
Also no one had NCSU as their "Dream" school when they apply to college. That's reserved for an elite few. This perpetuates into a brand when people graduate. There is a certain bar of candidates that companies expect from these schools. Not to say someone at other schools can't meet the bar. But it's easier for HR to just start with the top 10
Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by akhilcacharya on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @04:18PM (#22058720)
> Also no one had NCSU as their "Dream" school when they apply to college.

Are you sure? Where exactly did you go?

Re:US colleges struggling with low enrollment are closing at... by mav3rick on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:34PM (#22056231)
Try get into I-Banking (Big 4) without a big school.