Re:Schedule Changes with a Baby
by basseq on Monday January 13, 2020 @11:21AM
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Hard to react fully to a tweet, but if anything, this massively UNDERESTIMATES the scope of the impact.
Months leading up to baby? Doctor's appointments increasing to weekly, potential health issues that impact work and life.
Month 1? Way less organized: pretty much random bands of sleep, feed, care throughout the 24h cycle.
Month 2? I would love to meet the parents who get 8 hours of sleep in Month 2.
Month 3–6? Yeah, getting better, but still a lot of chaos.
Oh, and this is 7 days a week. No Friday nights or weekends, folks.
Having a kid is a massive life change, and a massive commitment. I emphasize this for two reasons. 1) We as a working society still massively under-support working moms (and dads). And 2) I don't want anyone getting depressed when their post-kid life isn't nearly as organized as the one laid out here.
(Inevitable disclaimer: Am man supporting a 8-month pregnant, working partner, along with two other kids.)
Re:Schedule Changes with a Baby
by qwertywerty on Monday January 13, 2020 @01:50PM
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Women and men should both bear the costs. However, seeing exactly how much a newborn can cut into time a woman would otherwise spend working makes me (against my better judgement) worry about hiring women.
Re:Schedule Changes with a Baby
by harperlee on Monday January 13, 2020 @02:37PM
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That’s what states are for (caring about the bigger picture in the social contract). In Spain, for example, it doesn’t matter whether you hire males or females, as both will be having 16 weeks of paid leave by next year. If there is no breastfeed, father and mother can basically do the same things (fathers can also take time off for bottle feeding).
Re:Schedule Changes with a Baby
by lesservehicle on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @10:27AM
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You know, some companies and some countries have full paid parental leave for fathers, too. A biopharm I worked for allowed 12 weeks of paid leave to fathers. In some cases you’d be in the same predicament with males. Also, you’re overvaluing productivity.
Re:Schedule Changes with a Baby
by nationsobviou on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @09:09PM
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Oh, I see. Personally I've never lived anywhere that didn't have essentially equal parental benefits for both men and women, so I failed to consider this angle.
Months leading up to baby? Doctor's appointments increasing to weekly, potential health issues that impact work and life.
Month 1? Way less organized: pretty much random bands of sleep, feed, care throughout the 24h cycle.
Month 2? I would love to meet the parents who get 8 hours of sleep in Month 2.
Month 3–6? Yeah, getting better, but still a lot of chaos.
Oh, and this is 7 days a week. No Friday nights or weekends, folks.
Having a kid is a massive life change, and a massive commitment. I emphasize this for two reasons. 1) We as a working society still massively under-support working moms (and dads). And 2) I don't want anyone getting depressed when their post-kid life isn't nearly as organized as the one laid out here.
(Inevitable disclaimer: Am man supporting a 8-month pregnant, working partner, along with two other kids.)
It's not like women can have children without a man, so shouldn't both bear the costs?