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Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by chrischen on Sunday January 12, 2020 @10:25PM (#22031578)
I think the issue is you aren’t paying for it, so you don’t own it. Paid hosted services cannot pull this crap.
Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by franga2000 on Monday January 13, 2020 @01:26AM (#22032283)
Paid G suite can and does pull this crap. There was a comment on HN a year-ish ago, when someone's entire ~100 person company (almost?) went out of business because Google flagged the personal Gmail of the domain admin, this "spread" to their company email, Google closed it and losing the admin account made the entire domain get deleted. Not "blocked" or "pending review" - deleted! IIRC even pulling personal favors at Google couldn't save them.
Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by gvjddbnvdrbv on Monday January 13, 2020 @02:05AM (#22032442)
Do you have a link to this story?
Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by londons_explore on Monday January 13, 2020 @03:28AM (#22032780)
Google's main problem here is they can't tell their side of the story.

If only they had some process where a customer could agree to have Google publicly explain why an account was banned, I think we'd see many more explanations along the lines of "This customer was using Google cloud to launch Ddos attacks" or "This customer sent bomb threats to the president".

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by manigandham on Monday January 13, 2020 @03:36AM (#22032811)
How is that a problem? What's stopping them? Google can easily write blog posts or release post mortems or have the dozens of PMs that visit HN talk about it.

Considering these links are all about people with valid businesses and apps, I doubt your examples apply for violations.

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by pjc50 on Monday January 13, 2020 @06:01AM (#22033420)
What law do you think is preventing them from doing that already? Especially where US residents with no general privacy law are concerned?

The only thing that's preventing Google from telling their side of the story is their own refusal to engage human-to-human with individual customers.

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by londons_explore on Monday January 13, 2020 @07:23AM (#22033803)
Both the law and Googles privacy policy stops them telling the world if you sent bomb threats to the president. That's still your private mail. They can't go looking it it, let alone telling the world about it.
Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by pjc50 on Monday January 13, 2020 @07:52AM (#22033969)
> the law

Which law?

> That's still your private mail. They can't go looking it it,

They definitely subject it to all kinds of automated scanning for spam and potentially abuse. The nearest thing to a public statement from Google on the subject seems to be: “very specific cases where you ask us to and give consent, or where we need to for security purposes, such as investigating a bug or abuse”

i.e. there may be abuse cases where they read your mail without asking.

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by asah on Monday January 13, 2020 @12:31PM (#22036534)
Downvote - Google could reply here on HN, which is one of (if not THE) top developer site in the world.
Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by codegladiator on Monday January 13, 2020 @04:38AM (#22033081)
> more explanations along the lines of

I am willing to bet there would be zero explanations along those lines.

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by oefrha on Sunday January 12, 2020 @10:47PM (#22031646)
Paid hosted services can and do pull this crap, and it’s not just Google.

“Digital Ocean killed our company” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20064169

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by leonidasv on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:33PM (#22031861)
At least DO was responsible, transparent and disclosured the bug for the public. After reading through the post, I've felt much more confident to use their services, specially after that comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20119939

Big G's policy is to lock you, provide no further comments and no contact link.

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by oefrha on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:36PM (#22031868)
“Transparency” due to blowup of bad publicity on HN. They’re simply not big enough to ignore this audience. They wouldn’t have given a damn if they were, just like they ignored many cases that didn’t blow up.
Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by komali2 on Monday January 13, 2020 @10:14AM (#22035083)
Sure, fine, but Google blows up hn here and there with horror stories but because of search and I guess the fact that 2024 is when they're possibly nuking cloud anyway, the companies in question still got deleted.

What's the alternative you're proposing? Are you just saying Cloud Bad?

Re:Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing ... by manigandham on Monday January 13, 2020 @02:13AM (#22032473)
Quite a lot of paid services have done exactly this. They use vague all-encompassing terms of service designed to give them complete control. Pretty much anything can be used as a violation of those terms, allowing them to keep your money while also blocking all access and even deleting your data. Very few customers have the legal and financial resources to unblock this if it does happen.