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Re:Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay by gist on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:24AM (#22027067)
> (I lasted about two months before I found a better job) because the job was so menial- and the managers so demeaning- that all joy in working was lost fairly regularly.

That sounds like a good outcome though. If the job weren't so bad you might have stuck with it. You could say that you (and others 'talented') were lucky it sucked so much.

Re:Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay by bsanr2 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @12:44PM (#22027677)
But the job still needed to get done. Just in terms of basic human decency, maybe we shouldn't encourage abuse and exploitation of workers just because "they can just get a better job."
Re:Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay by gist on Sunday January 12, 2020 @12:57PM (#22027781)
Who is 'encouraging abuse and exploitation'? I am saying that adversity also creates opportunity. Along those lines we all know of people who grew up poor and that was the thing that made them work hard. Also what makes many immigrants want to come here. This doesn't mean 'make things really bad it's motivating'. My point was more if things are comfortable it can keep people around and prevent them from seeking a better life.
Re:Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay by bsanr2 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @03:08PM (#22028876)
>I am saying that adversity also creates opportunity.

But it doesn't. Occasionally it spurs on action, but just as often, it traumatizes.

>This doesn't mean 'make things really bad it's motivating'.

That's just what you said, it's simply the flipside of the following sentence, and it's untrue. If we have limited time and energy on this planet, every moment in the work you describe is wasted.