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Re:OpenBSD won't update Firefox, advises users to switch to ESR by kelnos on Saturday January 11, 2020 @07:00PM (#22023353)
I think the empirical evidence is against you here, though. If package managers weren't a good way to do things, brew wouldn't exist. Neither would the Mac app store, or whatever the equivalent on Windows is these days.

As a Debian user, I appreciate that the stuff I install had at least gone through some minimal vetting first. And if I have to add a third party repository or download something myself to run, I'm much more likely to view that as the possibly-dangerous action that it is, and try to actively assess the reputation and trustworthiness of what I'm installing.

That's certainly not an average, noon-technical user thing, though. Vetted app stores are there to help average users avoid malware, assuming they're doing their job properly.

Re:OpenBSD won't update Firefox, advises users to switch to ESR by gyuserbti on Sunday January 12, 2020 @02:18AM (#22024992)
I agree with the OP a little. Central repository models have advantages but they've always seemed like short term benefits in exchange for long term costs.

Things like the app store, in for profit scenarios, seem like ways to slip in monopoly control. Brew is an attempt to circumvent it.

I don't want to come across as suggesting they're a bad idea or don't have advantages, just that on balance I've always had a sense there had to be a better way.

Re:OpenBSD won't update Firefox, advises users to switch to ESR by sandov on Sunday January 12, 2020 @07:05PM (#22030704)
> If package managers weren't a good way to do things, brew wouldn't exist.

Package managers are an easy way to do things, most of the time. That's why brew exists.

They are not a universally good way to distribute and install software. It twists the relationship between the software developer and the user.