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Re:Paris syndrome by Rels on Saturday January 11, 2020 @01:55PM (#22021601)
What's wrong with this video? For context, I've lived in Paris for 28 years (left 2 years ago), and I just love the haussmannien architecture. Even in this video, you can see quite a few buildings like that, each more extremely elegant than the next. Is this video supposed to be a negative take on Paris? I didn't get why he showed the ongoing manifestation at the end.

EDIT: OK I read the description of the video, what a disgusting human being. He's making the point that no "French" (for the person in question, that apparently means "white") people is left in Paris.

Re:Paris syndrome by baby on Saturday January 11, 2020 @04:46PM (#22022554)
I was watching this video trying to understand what was wrong with it, then I read the description:

> For those who are confused by the point of this video, the point is that France is changing forever due to mass immigration. The people in this video were not speaking French, the women were not wearing their hair in French Braids, they had their head scarves on. When I was driving from the airport I saw people being fed from volunteer aid vans in the Syrian zones and coming up to your cars with signs in Arabic. The posters on the walls and the protesters yelled refugees welcome. Much of what you are looking at is not legal or proper migration and assimilation. France will not be France for long.

what a bunch of bigotry.

Re:Paris syndrome by glennpratt on Saturday January 11, 2020 @02:28PM (#22021767)
> Not to put too fine a point, but is this the Paris you've encountered?

It's absolutely part of it. I actually have no idea what your fine point is. Please spell it out for me.

> Do you expect others who've visited Paris to come away with quite a different perception, even being in the same places you were in or objectively no?

I don't think this is an objective conversation. I don't understand how someone couldn't have appreciated the things I did, that's all.

Re:Paris syndrome by pen2l on Saturday January 11, 2020 @01:31PM (#22021447)
That's close to my experiences in some areas, and it's really nice? Wonderful and diverse food, folks walking around, it's really nice.
Re:Paris syndrome by jdietrich on Sunday January 12, 2020 @04:13AM (#22025302)
The 18th Arrondissement looks like the 18th Arrondissement. I am not exactly shocked. Paris is rather busy with being Paris; if it doesn't meet your expectations, that's very much your problem.
Re:Paris syndrome by bsaul on Sunday January 12, 2020 @10:35AM (#22026711)
Except this kind of video could be shot in every suburb in the northern half of Paris.

You may want to say it’s perfectly « normal », because that’s actually what the situation is now indeed. But for every single tourist i know, as well as for every people that has known Paris before the 1980s , it comes as a great surprise.

Re:Paris syndrome by iron0013 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:41AM (#22027222)
Could you tell me what you think the “surprise” is, exactly? I don’t quite get it, I need you to explicitly say what you mean.
Re:Paris syndrome by bsaul on Sunday January 12, 2020 @01:01PM (#22027817)
i’m afraid you’ll have to ask your asian friends visiting the country for the first time after they took the RER from the airport to Paris (but you’ll have to make them feel like they won’t get sued for giving their impression, first)
Re:Paris syndrome by iron0013 on Monday January 13, 2020 @06:10PM (#22039799)
You're still doing exactly what I asked you not to do. What exactly is the "great surprise" that you mentioned? What exactly is it that you think my "asian friends" are going to see? Come on, spit it out, have the courage to own your opinions. And if it turns out that your opinion is something that would get you banned from HN for sharing, then maybe you should consider refraining from invoking that opinion via dog whistles and thinly veiled insinuations too.
Re:Paris syndrome by bsaul on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @09:31AM (#22044995)
If you’re truely interested in my opinion on the situation in france just read my other comments in the thread.

But somehow i doubt you are. Your tone seem to suggest you’re rather the kind of person eager to call anyone a racist every time cultural gaps or even identity in general is mentioned. I’m not sure you realize it, but you’re the exact mirror image of people from the extreme right that blame race for every trouble in the country.

Re:Paris syndrome by iron0013 on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @02:11PM (#22048180)
I’m not eager to call you a racist, I’m eager for you to stop being racist on HN.
Re:Paris syndrome by douglasmurray12 on Saturday January 11, 2020 @01:47PM (#22021552)
Not all of Paris is like that. Those that can afford to tend to move out from such areas, resulting in a fairly segregated city. The politicians responsible tend to not live in such areas either.
Re:Paris syndrome by pnako on Saturday January 11, 2020 @11:20PM (#22024452)
Not just the politicians. The very people commenting that it's a great thing with "great food" (surprisingly the most common argument) don't live there either.
Re:Paris syndrome by iron0013 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:42AM (#22027228)
Not all of Paris is like what?
Re:Paris syndrome by douglasmurray12 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:51AM (#22027292)
Has a very large proportion of people that immigrated into France within 1-2 generations from outside Europe, mostly North Africa.