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Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by Lucadg on Saturday January 11, 2020 @12:26AM (#22018335)
What if you are abroad? My debit card was recently blocked and I had to wait until I went back, walked in the bank and show my face and ID.
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by ozim on Saturday January 11, 2020 @03:30AM (#22018886)
Before you go abroad you could notify your bank. Then in period you declared you are abroad they should lower expectation from "in person and ID" to phone call and other means of verification. After that period you are automatically back to normal security.

That is for example how my debit card works. If I want to use it abroad I have to turn that feature on for whatever time I am abroad.

Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by egwor on Saturday January 11, 2020 @04:25AM (#22019061)
In Europe you have a telephone PIN codes, you have number generators on the app. There are lots of ways to authenticate yourself. IN Europe you no longer need to tell them whether you're abroad or not; I guess the ML algo's that monitor for fraud are so much better than before that this isn't needed.
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by frutiger on Saturday January 11, 2020 @05:58AM (#22019282)
> IN Europe you no longer need to tell them whether you're abroad or not

The same is true with my major US bank (and probably other banks too).

Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by alamortsubite on Saturday January 11, 2020 @04:33PM (#22022476)
YMMV. An ING ATM in Romania swallowed my gf's U.S. Santander card a couple months ago. We were told it was because she hadn't set a travel notice.
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by ahaseeb on Monday January 13, 2020 @11:58AM (#22036187)
Losing a bank card isn't as critical as losing a phone # so companies have to act quickly. Think about it - Can you live without your bank card for few days vs living without your #
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by Lucadg on Saturday January 11, 2020 @11:35AM (#22020725)
I'm going abroad all the time and I'm sure this wouldn't work anyway. Last time I was in their office I realized how backwards they are.
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by cortesoft on Saturday January 11, 2020 @05:48PM (#22022936)
So the bad guy can just notify the bank that you are traveling abroad, and then use the easier method to gain access.
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by kelnos on Saturday January 11, 2020 @09:12PM (#22023978)
I think we just need to be prepared for these sorts of things. Travel with cash, your debit card, and one or two credit cards. If you can afford it, have a backup SIM (Twilio sells SIM cards for about $3 and the cost to keep them activated is $1/mo, and nothing more if you don't use it [0]). Use a Twilio or Google Voice number that you don't use for anything else for 2FA or account recovery for services that require a phone number (some providers reject these numbers, but many will accept them).

[0] Full disclosure: I work at Twilio and built the first version of the wireless product, so I'm a bit biased.

Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by ahaseeb on Monday January 13, 2020 @12:00PM (#22036205)
It's about convenience. 99% of the people will take convenience over security. Changing behaviour is difficult
Re:SMS is not 2FA-secure by kelnos on Monday January 13, 2020 @07:15PM (#22040325)
I get that, but if you want to remain reasonably safe from a SIM swap attack, this is what you have to do.