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Re:Fiat will effectively fund Tesla’s German factory by LoSboccacc on Friday January 10, 2020 @03:25PM (#22015097)
fiat has marvelous compacts. the fire engine derivatives just run forever, the diesel made school twenty years ago and have an edge still today.

they have no clue on full size cars, and still pay for the socialized handling the Italian car sector was subject into the nineties, but below management they still have good tech and when they put their eggs into the right basket, the output is just phenomenal.

and the Alfa tonale was a thing from unsuspecting times.

Re:Fiat will effectively fund Tesla’s German factory by Gravityloss on Friday January 10, 2020 @08:12PM (#22017305)
I have owned two Fiats and rented one.

I think a Panda excels in Southern European medieval plan cities with its nimbleness, short dimensions, good visibility and just overall practicality. Also looks good. It isn't a sports car or a luxury car and the design accepts that.

In Northern Europe, I would recommend something much more robust than a Fiat.

Re:Fiat will effectively fund Tesla’s German factory by woodpanel on Friday January 10, 2020 @04:00PM (#22015486)
As a premium SUV driver: Not at all an Alfa fan.

But: Fiat made great progress under their late CEO. The current 500 is a modern icon IMO.

Re:Fiat will effectively fund Tesla’s German factory by inferiorhuman on Friday January 10, 2020 @07:21PM (#22017021)
fiat has marvelous compacts. the fire engine derivatives just run forever, the diesel made school twenty years ago and have an edge still today.

Whatever FIAT is importing for the US market hasn't been particularly reliable.

they still have good tech and when they put their eggs into the right basket, the output is just phenomenal.

Speaking of, the one thing that surprised me with the 500 was how primitive its bluetooth support was. I think it will only sync contacts with a phone (playing audio is just not in the cards).

Re:Fiat will effectively fund Tesla’s German factory by jimmux on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @01:19AM (#22042326)
My 500 has been great, but I always hear horror stories about the 500 in the US. I believe they have assembly in Mexico, which I assume is for the North American market. They are also built in Poland(?) if memory serves, so it may be that I have a European vehicle here.

And yes, bluetooth is weirdly primitive. I prefer aux anyway, so no big deal.