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Re:I Was Google’s Head of International Relations. Here’s Wh... by song on Friday January 10, 2020 @12:43PM (#22012874)
Back when I lived in China, I used to think that having Google in China even with censorship was better than not having Google at all. But, this was also because back then, they did have a notice saying that some of the results had been censored. Back then, it felt to me to be an interesting compromise.

What does scare me though, is that by accepting censorship, it normalizes it and weakens the position of any company protesting against it even in countries that traditionally are more pro-human rights like European countries and the US. So it is a complex question...

Re:I Was Google’s Head of International Relations. Here’s Wh... by awb on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:00PM (#22013077)
Do the majority of people living in China know about / care about censorship? Curious if information was being censored how you'd even know.
Re:I Was Google’s Head of International Relations. Here’s Wh... by Aperocky on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:52PM (#22013897)
Of course. It's condescending to think otherwise, you can't pretend youtube or twitter doesn't exist (especially with a substantial portion who use VPN to evade censorship anyways), it's just accepted as a fact of life.
Re:I Was Google’s Head of International Relations. Here’s Wh... by awb on Friday January 10, 2020 @11:11PM (#22018065)
> It's condescending to think otherwise

Really? China's a huge country with huge differences in income and education. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there are some people who aren't aware of the censorship or others even outside of the government that feel like it's a good policy. Mainly curious how small that population is.

Re:I Was Google’s Head of International Relations. Here’s Wh... by sneak on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:14PM (#22013268)
Also: how much of that opinion is an actually informed one, versus an opinion shaped by censorship itself?
Re:I Was Google’s Head of International Relations. Here’s Wh... by ethbro on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:30PM (#22013554)
That was the moral of The Man in the High Castle when it was written -- that every totalitarian state's wet dream is that a new generation can be enculturated to not believe alternatives are possible.