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Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by bsanr2 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:31AM (#21981485)
>My brother and I were from a normal middle class background but both went to fancy private schools.

I find that people tend to either over or underestimate the "middle class"iness of their upbringing.

Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by asdfman123 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:55AM (#21981761)
My dad worked for city government as a planner for a small suburban town and my mom worked part time as a bookkeeper. My childhood home's estimated value is like $185k.

My parents were smart and had a little extra cultural capital but yeah, we were pretty middle class. Maybe lower-upper-middle class.

Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by bsanr2 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @07:34PM (#21986955)
>Dad was in a managerial, if not directorial, position not threatened by industry collapse, and made enough so that his wife only had to work part time.

I mean, that would do it. I suppose it depends on when and where you grew up. Suffice it to say that this kind of upbringing sounds unusually high-end compared to the actual American middle class for the past 30-odd years (where you would likely find both parents working, home ownership a tenuous proposition, and private schools out of the question).

I point this out mostly because we're sorely in need of a reexamination of what's "normal" and what should be normal in this country.

Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by TheHegemon on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:38AM (#21981568)
Seriously, these two things do not go in hand in my mind.
Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by crgt on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @12:36PM (#21982252)
Scholarships are a thing?
Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by asdfman123 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @01:40PM (#21983084)
Nah, I didn't even need scholarships. The financial aid was really good for Stanford undergrad.

My brother went to a state school undergrad, then got grad degrees from Harvard and Georgetown. He's almost done paying off an assload of debt, but it's meant he's had to work as a consultant these last ten years.

Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by snegu on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @02:46PM (#21983958)
I think everybody thought you were talking about "fancy private" elementary/high schools, which is definitely not a middle class thing. Private college/university is a totally different matter.
Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by dcole2929 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @04:39PM (#21985204)
They have scholarships for private k-12 too. I went to one 6-12 and my family was at no point ever more than lower-middle class. I got what amounted to a full ride almost my entire time there. And even as the family made more still didn't pay much.