Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep?

Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by bsanr2 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:19AM (#21981366)

I don't know how related this is to the article, but your point is true. As an example: it's been posited that a portion of the gender wage gap is due to the average height difference between men and women. Why? Because there's also a "height wage gap" between tall and short men, to the tune of thousands of dollars a year comparing either side of 1SD from the the mean. By not taking wage gaps seriously (because they're largely spoken of in terms of gender and race), short men are robbing themselves of a payday, and tall men lose out on the social stability that more equitable pay would bring.

Inequity doesn't just affect any particular group; its mere existence changes the way we think about what's fair and tolerable.

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by scarmig on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @01:24PM (#21982879)

It'd be lovely to address the height wage gap, but if the "Right" mocks the idea that short men and tall men should get paid equally, the "Left" gets angry at even the hint that there are other axes of oppression than gender and race. Try dropping into a feminist subreddit and float the theory that the height wage gap has a meaningful amount of explanatory power.

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by bsanr2 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @07:38PM (#21986990)

I'm aware. It is definitely frustrating, about as much so as reading the responses when floating the idea of feminism being a good thing for men, or trans rights being a good thing for cis men, in /r/short.

Everyone needs to chill, and then whoever has power in a given circumstance needs to start using it to promote equity and equality.

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by cookieswumchorr on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @01:11PM (#21982710)

that's an interesting thing. Other than perception, could it be a social strata thing? Kids who's parents are better off get a healthier diet (or, in poor places, just more food). This affects how they grow

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by bluntfang on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:58AM (#21981803)

Is it possible that the heigh wage gap exists due to larger people requiring more resources to exist? It costs extra money for a tall person to get the required calories. It costs extra money for tall people to be comfortable on airlines.

I'm not saying this to be true, but it's a fact that larger people require more resources, especially in a globalizing environment where resources are created for the average human and outliers are having a tougher time just existing?

I don't expect anyone to really take this seriously, and I don't want to equate this to the struggle of being non-cis-white-male.

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by creaturemachine on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @12:22PM (#21982076)

If this were true then the gender gap would be far different because, in my view, it's much more expensive being a woman in our society.

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by satyrnein on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @01:13PM (#21982733)

Tall people can use their extra earnings to spring for the exit row. Plus, in case of actual emergency, everyone will look to them as natural leaders!

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by sullyj3 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @12:21PM (#21982059)

If this were the entire explanation, why wouldn't you just expect equal wages and tall men to be slightly more worse off?

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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by bluntfang on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @02:45PM (#21983932)

I think this begs the question "why is there a wage gap between genders?"

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