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Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by rjkennedy98 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:17AM (#21981348)
Its not so much as zero-sum but essentially schizophrenic.

On one side we have a culture of extreme sexual liberation, with the media, hookup culture, and the porn industry, and on the other side we have the yes-means-yes, firings for touching a women's back (Garrison Keillor), special legal proceedings for sexual assault accusers, ect.

How is anyone supposed to navigate a culture as complex as this?

Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by ameister14 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:45AM (#21981642)
Just want to point out that this is a misuse of the word schizophrenic; if you are going to link extreme swings to a psychological disorder, the one you're likely looking for is bipolar. Simplifying it, schizophrenia is when you see and hear things that aren't there.
Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by FisDugthop on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @03:52PM (#21984687)
Foucault would politely disagree; he used "schizophrenic" (literally, "a mind split into pieces") to describe the way that (post)modern society uses symbols and signs to point at cultural features, without actually understanding how those cultural features interact. In such a society, the signs themselves, and they way in which they chain into each other, become the primary meanings, replacing the cultural features entirely.

The parent reasonably points out two families of sign-chains and sketches how they conflict by emphasizing how the signs espouse conflicting opinions on male sexuality.

Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by ameister14 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @04:39PM (#21985206)
Foucault would probably disagree for more reasons than that; specificity and certitude in regards to psychiatric illnesses or how they are described wasn't exactly something he jived with
Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by majormajor on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @12:58PM (#21982563)
There's a wide gap between hooking up with someone who you were messaging on Tinder and touching people at work...

Porn and other media content are even more obviuously not real...

Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by amyjess on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @01:57PM (#21983302)
The key word here is "consent".

Sex is fine. Hell, sex is great! Just don't do it with someone who doesn't want to do it with you.

Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by minikites on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:47AM (#21981666)
It's actually pretty easy: do you have consent from the other person for your actions affecting them? That's really all there is to it.
Re:Whatever happened to the noble art of the manly weep? by bsagdiyev on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @11:55AM (#21981762)
Not really. There have been cases of people regretting what they did and retroactively revoking consent, leading to trouble for the other person. It isn't as easy as you make it out to be.