People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige

Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by beaconstudios on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @09:34AM (#21980216)

Marcus Aurelius being a writer on stoicism, I feel I have to point out that stoicism would suggest that you control how you feel about yourself and are only tying your feelings to external factors. You can feel good about yourself without external validation.

Influencing others is only practically useful in your lifetime, so posthumous fame doesn't really do you anything.

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Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by _4ziu on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @10:01AM (#21980508)

But it does other people good after i die, and i care about other people even after i die.

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Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by beaconstudios on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @10:23AM (#21980731)

but that's a different perspective - stoicism addresses the hedonism treadmill and how to get off of it (as well as how to respond to misery) - it isn't in opposition to charity or altruism. It's a totally different thing to try to have a great influence for posthumous fame and recognition, versus just trying to help people whether they know it was you or not.

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Re:People Who Are Obsessed with Success and Prestige by throwawayhhakdl on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @09:59AM (#21980485)

How this reads to me:

“You can feel good about yourself eating tasteless food. Eating delicious food is only useful while you’re eating it, so once it’s consumed it doesn’t really do you anything”.

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