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Re:The McDonnell Douglas-Boeing merger led to the 737 Max cr... by sokoloff on Monday January 06, 2020 @04:00PM (#21973247)
Per pax mile, airlines are surprisingly competitive with private automobiles.

Short haul flights are right around 100 miles per gallon per passenger seat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_aircraft#Short...

For a couple considering an airline flight vs a car, they'd need to be driving a 50mpg car to achieve the same fuel efficiency as the airline.

Re:The McDonnell Douglas-Boeing merger led to the 737 Max cr... by newnewpdro on Monday January 06, 2020 @04:56PM (#21973837)
What's implied in your statement is that the introduction of air travel reduced overall fuel consumption vs. where it was at when people traveled more by automobile.

This is obviously not the case.

Trying to compare the two "per pax mile" ignores the fact that the convenience of air travel created more travel than it ever saved in fuel efficiency as a bulk mover. It covers longer distances in generally less time and more comfort, it created a new class of travel in an additive fashion, it didn't strictly replace the alternatives.

If we're actually debating fuel and emissions on a large scale, this is a major part of the larger picture.

Furthermore, since the primary dimension which matters to individuals is time and cost not distance, when you'd compare a vacation by automobile to flight, the automobile vacation would likely be to a nearer destination. So one shouldn't even be comparing equal distances if attempting such a comparison, it's just not comfortable and/or worthwhile for most people to drive across the country for a weekend trip - many will do that flight without batting an eye.

Fortunately modern vehicles, especially the likes of Teslas and supercharger networks completely destroy even your disingenuous comparison.

Re:The McDonnell Douglas-Boeing merger led to the 737 Max cr... by mannykannot on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:19PM (#21976120)
There does not seem to be anything disingenuous about Sokoloff's post.