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Re:Products I Wish Existed by triceratops on Monday January 06, 2020 @01:55PM (#21971893)
> get things shipped to work, use Amazon lockers,

These seem like reasonable solutions. Why not just do them?

> I literally have video of the dude grabbing shit off my porch, but can do nothing about it.

So what will more surveillance technology do? Maybe the innovation needed is apartment-community style mailboxes or dropboxes where only the mailperson and the tenant can have access, but scaled to single-family-home use.

Re:Products I Wish Existed by coldtea on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:00PM (#21971957)
>>> get things shipped to work, use Amazon lockers, >These seem like reasonable solutions. Why not just do them?

Because that's bending broken backwards to accept a broken neighbourhood and society.

Where this stops? "Drive-by's are a thing, accept it and just were a bulletproof vest, it's a sensible solution"?

Re:Products I Wish Existed by triceratops on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:07PM (#21972045)
Needing to safeguard your possessions lest they get stolen is a sign of a broken society? By that yardstick, every human society past and present is broken. Leaving aside small sleepy towns, everyone locks up their house, car, bicycles, and other possessions, even the people complaining about stolen packages. That's not considered an unreasonable burden, but the minute unattended packages get taken off porches everyone loses their minds.
Re:Products I Wish Existed by coldtea on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:56PM (#21972567)
>Needing to safeguard your possessions lest they get stolen is a sign of a broken society?

Yes. You are just probably too used to it to notice.

Decades before it didn't happen as often in places it does now (yes, it did happen in other places. No excuse for a neighbourhood to go bad though, e.g. through tons of meth/opioid addicted piling to the crime rate).

In nicer neighbourhoods it doesn't happen still.

In whole countries (like Japan) it's unthinkable.

>Leaving aside small sleepy towns, everyone locks up their house, car, bicycles, and other possessions, even the people complaining about stolen packages

In my place (like in places like Tokyo or Singapore today still) we used to sleep with open windows, and had no problems even living cars unlocked. So there's that.

Re:Products I Wish Existed by ithkuil on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:25PM (#21972899)
In other countries (like Italy where I currently live) leaving a package unattended is unthinkable. If there is nobody home they leave a slip of paper that says there will be another attempt at delivery the next day or else you have to fetch the package in some remote dispatch center (things are getting better now and many couriers are now taking their time to call you on the phone a few minutes before they drop by; sometimes you can ask them to drop the package at neighbors or at some small shop nearby, if the owner is willing)
Re:Products I Wish Existed by chillacy on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:45PM (#21973100)
Sure there are police in every society but even in cities some neighborhoods have bars on their first floor windows while others don’t. And if you go out of the country, you could leave a wallet on the street or bicycle unlocked in cities in Japan or Singapore.