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Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @12:36PM (#21962515)
I’m in the same boat as you. I’ve been working at the same tech company for 6.5 years making around 500 (used to be 1.2 but my stock grant ran out). I only show up one day a week to have lunch with friends and do nothing. My advice is to keep the money flowing and do something else on the side.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sweetheart on Sunday January 05, 2020 @12:48PM (#21962619)
This blows my mind. I make 120k as a young person in SWE, and I feel like a fraud often for making that money, and being able to work from basically anywhere I want in the world. How do you justify it to yourself? Do other things fulfill you? I’m already feeling pangs of doubt about my life, and I work more and earn less than you. I’m passing no judgement at all, I’m just curious about how that dynamic effects you and your life.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @04:50PM (#21964385)
I don’t really care about stuff like that. I assume I’ll get laid off at some point, but I’ve made so much that I don’t really worry about it. It’s hard for big companies to find people who aren’t doing anything.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by polishdude20 on Sunday January 05, 2020 @07:37PM (#21965436)
Yeah this is crazy to me too. I don't work in software, I teach engineering at a local tech institute and I make like 55k Canadian. I'm fairly autonomous in that as long as I fulfill my class hours and workload I'm free to work from home and all that. I have a great work life balance and I love it but the pay is abysmally if I want to start a family in the future and save for retirement.

I've started getting into software development in my free time and planning for a career change but I feel as if I'd be trading my free time for more money. And if there's a kid on the way, what's more valuable to get from your dad? A dad that makes lots of money but isn't around much or a fad that is around a bunch but can't support you as well? Maybe real life isn't so cut and dry and I can find a happy medium between the two in software. Any advice?

Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by mpmpmpmp on Sunday January 05, 2020 @08:41PM (#21965739)
30 year old dad of a 2 year old. I did software dev fulltime for 3 years then a consultant for the last 5. Having the flexibility to be at my kid's doctor appointments and go to the park on a weekday is cool. But I pay for it with either not getting things done or staying up way too late and killing myself. I'm just now starting a more traditional 9-5 schedule (still as a consultant) and I'm hoping that will translate into less stress with being able to work and be a parent and take care of myself. There's hopefully always a happy medium for anybody but it depends on what your priorities are. I definitely noticed a change in my childs behavior when I stopped spending every night in the basement working and learning. Even if it was only for 30 minutes at a time. But obviously my ability to be "in the zone" for hours after billing time was over changed too. But it matters to me, so that's why I do it.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by polishdude20 on Sunday January 05, 2020 @10:13PM (#21966117)
I don't mind having a 9-5 as long as it means I definitely finish at 5 and don't have to take my work home with me. I guess it depends on the company and what their work life balance is.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @08:45PM (#21965754)
As someone pointed out in this thread, a lot of this is strength of resume and where you went to college. Without that you’ll be pushing upstream. I don’t find my advice is very useful to people because they can’t replicate my situation.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by not_qe on Monday January 06, 2020 @12:21AM (#21966677)
How did you get to $15m? 500k per year x 7 years into index ETFs is still like $8m ish
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by hacker_newz on Sunday January 05, 2020 @12:57PM (#21962702)
What is your actual base salary?
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @04:48PM (#21964373)
300 plus bonus plus stock plus sundries like 401k match
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by eerrt on Sunday January 05, 2020 @12:57PM (#21962701)
is it a FAANG/unicorn?
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @04:49PM (#21964374)
It’s not but it’s a well known Silicon Valley company.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by StandardFuture on Sunday January 05, 2020 @06:58PM (#21965210)
Not a FAANG/Unicorn? Seems like you might be a fairly early employee at a fairly successful private SV company?
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @07:07PM (#21965262)
Nope, but there was a stock increase that made my initial grant worth way more. There was no magic here. I was hired at a fairly established company, got a decent package and then sat around.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by ubertoop on Sunday January 05, 2020 @07:22PM (#21965353)
I think you're downplaying something here.

You got hired as a manger, so at the very least, you must have had a pretty prosperous and impressive background as an engineer for some time.

You might be cruising now, but snapshots of one's life are hardly the full story.

Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @08:42PM (#21965744)
Oh sure that’s definitely true. I have a strong resume. At some point I just stopped having to do any work, and instead of trying to “fix” it I just went along with it. Another key element is there’s no way I’ll ever get promoted. I decided I don’t care. The difference between making 500 and 800 or whatever is sort of meaningless after taxes.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by ubertoop on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:05PM (#21976723)
I'd love to be in that position. I have a strong resume too, and I'm more than ready to be rewarded for it with a high paying job which I can more or less cruise in. So count your blessings!
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by asdf21 on Sunday January 05, 2020 @10:22PM (#21966152)
You don't have a boss who wants you to do x y or z?
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by zzzcarrot on Sunday January 05, 2020 @05:47PM (#21964736)
Wow what level or how did you manage this?
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by sfblah on Sunday January 05, 2020 @06:02PM (#21964839)
I don’t want to dox myself here. My level range should be obvious from my salary. I’m a manager not an IC. Yes everyone on my team knows what’s up.
Re:Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How... by burntoutfire on Monday January 06, 2020 @07:46AM (#21968697)
Ah, so you're probably one of those overpaid non-managers that everyone hates... We have a bunch of those, they avoid work and responsibility like the plague, and in result the project is in severe leadership crisis.