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Re:Machine learning is fundamentally conservative by reilly3000 on Saturday January 04, 2020 @02:02AM (#21953401)
Conservative in this sense means something like 'resistant to deviation from established norms'. I think a lot of the headline-only readers take conservative to mean 'of the character of a specific political movement' which ironically seems more activistic than change resistant.
Re:Machine learning is fundamentally conservative by TeMPOraL on Saturday January 04, 2020 @02:14AM (#21953436)
Perhaps you could call it "integral controller" (like the I in "PID controller")? Because systems that have a memory behave like ones, and we are definitely in a feedback loop with those systems.

And, from what I remember from my control theory classes, the integral part of a controller introduces lag, inertia, generally making the output more resistant to input changes.

(Also note that the "non-conservative" Proportional and Derivative components in a PID by definition don't learn - they react to input and its change.)

Re:Machine learning is fundamentally conservative by reilly3000 on Saturday January 04, 2020 @02:31AM (#21953504)
That's a pretty interesting corollary! I suppose I could extrapolate that in such a system, too much change over too little time would invite a strong conservative response / lag to future input.

Our 20 year old millennium has seen a tremendous rate of change in both technology and social norms. Perhaps politics has some similar inertial dynamics.

Re:Machine learning is fundamentally conservative by TazeTSchnitzel on Saturday January 04, 2020 @07:33AM (#21954566)
But isn't “resistant to deviation from established norms” at least partly what conservatism means politically?
Re:Machine learning is fundamentally conservative by dzamie on Saturday January 04, 2020 @08:55AM (#21954899)
On paper, yes, but in practice, there is significant lag time between a new noem being established and conservatives giving up the old one in favor of the new normal. For example, being against gay marriage (as opposed to it being a non-issue) is still seen as the conservative opinion despite pro-gay-marriage being the plurality opinion for eight years and an outright majority for six[0]. Further, since economic deregulation is seen as the conservative stance, being in favor of abolishing the minimum wage labels someone as a conservative, despite it being nationally established for seven decades.

[0] https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-ga...

Re:Machine learning is fundamentally conservative by Huycfhct on Saturday January 04, 2020 @07:48PM (#21958808)
Mostly only in America does it have this association. I read it as a bias towards not changing unless it's something clearly related to the US political system