Then be direct and say what you mean since I don't know what you're trying to say.

Is health care not a problem for startups? If it in fact is, then answer this question: what does it matter how many other things the administration got done? How does that make it less of a problem?

I guess it depends on what you thought of the health care reform bill. In my mind it's already taken care of, and things will improve as the provisions take effect.

I would prefer it all come in to effect immediately, but I understand there are business and regulatory systems that need to be developed in advance of implementation.

You didn't answer my question. Would you, please?

We must be talking about different things. I'm not involved or interested in that line of discussion. The only important part of the post that sparked this was "Looks like partisan raging."

I was just really sad the see the replies died off here since I wanted to see how the formatting would look as we moved further over.

Here's a nice argument tree to play with: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1686176

Scroll quickly and you can see context bouncing around in waves.