Re:Putting Devs Before Users: How Frameworks Destroyed Web P...
by DayDollar on Thursday January 02, 2020 @07:31AM
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Buisness schools need a new lecture: Management as a Liability: Tech debt, tech insolvency and what one can do to prevent it.
I worked in automation for quite a while now- and seriously, i would be glad by now if management would push for new technology. The tech here is stagnant since the 80s.
They start debates when you talk about object orientation.
Re:Putting Devs Before Users: How Frameworks Destroyed Web P...
by OGWhales on Thursday January 02, 2020 @11:15AM
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I recently graduated and majored in CIS as well as CS, and the CIS classes were in the business school. This is something we talked about a good deal in one of my CIS classes. Unfortunately, it was a specific major class, not something all business majors took. I am unsure if normal management majors were taught similar ideas but I thought the class I took was rather well done.
Re:Putting Devs Before Users: How Frameworks Destroyed Web P...
by shishy on Thursday January 02, 2020 @07:39AM
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Yeah, have experienced this also, and I think there are competing interests between "best engineering option to get the product out fastest/most efficiently" and things like "hiring" and "getting investment funding"
Using the latest and greatest buzzwords helps greatly with hiring and getting investment (it's a positive feedback loop that just feeds itself and increasingly adds pressure to make those decisions).
Or, management tells engineers what tools to use because they think it makes them look cool.
Our company recently got word from above that "all these old technologies go out the window, you're now all becoming JS devs and we'll use microservices for everything".
The result is that for one project I could probably build entirely by myself with a LAMP stack in one week, we now have 15+ people in 3 teams & 3 different countries each working on tiny parts of a very small simple app barely used by anyone, using a whole shopping list of tech that you simply don't need.
When I asked one of those management "evangelist" guys during an informal dinner "so why all of a sudden JS frameworks?" his answer was something honestly along the lines of "I don't know it seems the thing to do nowadays".
Needless to say I'm job hunting like my life depends on it.