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Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by soared on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:26AM (#21899716)
To each their own - 100% of the content I consume is Netflix or YouTube. For me a non-smart tv is useless unless I hook up something smart to it.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by bitwize on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:31AM (#21899769)
The thing is, the smart thing you hook up to it is under your control. It could be a laptop or Raspberry Pi.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by OrgNet on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:29PM (#21900204)
Is a Windows PC really under your control nowadays? And if you connect your phone to the TV, you don't really even own those, even if you paid $1000 for your "phone". The manufacturers are the true owners unless you root them which is not always easy.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by bitwize on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:44PM (#21900328)
No, but you can detach the Windows PC. With a smart TV, you're stuck with whatever is in that firmware, without which the TV may not even turn on.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by OrgNet on Sunday December 29, 2019 @08:15PM (#21909931)
I guess you could detach the smart TV and replace it with another... but I get your point.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by thematt on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:29AM (#21899753)
But you could plug in a Roku or a Fire TV, right? The TV can't proxy through those. It's maybe cringeworthy to say, but I probably trust those companies more than I do Samsung.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by gruez on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:47PM (#21900348)
>but I probably trust those companies more than I do Samsung.

Care to explain why? It looks like both roku and firetv spies on what you watch.

https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smar...

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by Koshkin on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:43AM (#21899864)
You do not need to "trust," just read their respective Privacy Statements and you'll see for yourself.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by freeflight on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:16PM (#21900109)
This is not an argument, like not at all, it's just a distraction from the issue: Trampling all over user-rights because somewhere in hundreds of pages of ToS/EULA legal-speak there's a clause hidden supposedly justifying it all.

Here's some reality: "You’d Need 76 Work Days to Read All Your Privacy Policies Each Year" [0] and that was back in 2012. Since then ToS, EULA, Privacy Statement and whatnot have only expanded in scope, people use even more services these days and thus accept even more terms.

You'd need a dedicated law team doing all the reading and interpreting for you if you want to realistically stay informed about all that consent you've given, without having to give up large parts of your productivity just checking and tracing what weird things you supposedly agreed to [1].

There need to be some well-established limits that won't just rely on users supposedly hand-waving all their privacy away, that way the USG might actually even go back to honoring the Fourth Amendment [2].

[0] http://techland.time.com/2012/03/06/youd-need-76-work-days-t...

[1] https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_doctrine

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by Koshkin on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:40AM (#21899831)
Netflix is watching you. Youtube, on the other hand, in a private window over a VPN is as far as you can go privacy-wise.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by 83hajfjeijg on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:34AM (#21899786)
"The content I consume". When the fuck did people start actually talking about themselves like this, it sounds like it's straight out of a dystopian sci-fi novel from the 80s.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by Koshkin on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:49AM (#21899905)
I hear you. Nobody could say this in reference to reading books. That tells you something.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by hvis on Saturday December 28, 2019 @03:28PM (#21901502)
I've seen "gobble up" and "devour" used in reference to books before.