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Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by vidanay on Friday December 27, 2019 @11:50AM (#21892361)
Drop the "follow your dreams" rhetoric and have a serious discussion with them about the costs of life and lifestyles.

If they want to live in a 6000 sq ft house in Malibu, then they shouldn't get a degree in 5th Century Aerobics.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by glangdale on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:06PM (#21892455)
Oh, come on. Visigothercize is the hottest thing right now: "burn! and loot! and turn! and burn!".

Seriously, this is good advice. A lot of young-uns have amazingly naive ideas about both how much money they will make but also how much money they get to keep. Like they will hear about making $70K and imagine that somehow that means that they could pay off, say, a $350K debt "in the order of 5 years" (obviously not thinking exactly 5). As opposed to the reality which is that they will be challenged to even service the interest on a $350K debt at that income level after their other expenses.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by jpmattia on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:34PM (#21892712)
> Visigothercize is the hottest thing right now: "burn! and loot! and turn! and burn!".

I live in Santa Monica (just a little south of Malibu) and given the number of exercise/barre/yoga/soul cycle/equinox/pilates/crossfit places near me, I have to say: Visigothercize sounds like pure genius and I have no doubt it would IPO within a year or two.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by Terr_ on Friday December 27, 2019 @05:07PM (#21895166)
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Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by non-entity on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:05PM (#21892453)
> If they want to live in a 6000 sq ft house in Malibu, then they shouldn't get a degree in 5th Century Aerobics.

I mean if that's what they want, you might as well tell them to be born into another family because you'll never enough for that as a wage worker regardless of the degree.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by refurb on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:10PM (#21892491)
Doctors and lawyers could afford a house in Malibu and they are wage workers.
Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by nugget on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:15PM (#21892533)
The white collar professionals who can afford these types of areas are usually much more like entrepreneurs than individual practitioners of their craft.
Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by vidanay on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:17PM (#21892550)
And they have a relevant education.
Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by buzzkillington on Friday December 27, 2019 @08:08PM (#21896319)
If by afford you mean "take out a loan that will not be paid off until the property is underwater from global warming", sure.

There is no job that's kept pace with the growth of the economy, let alone the growth of the stock market.

At this point the smartest economic decision anyone can make is to invent cryosleep, build a modest nuclear reactor in their basement and wait for the year 3000 where compound interest would have made them the richest person in the world.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by falcolas on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:24PM (#21892626)
Not all doctors. Not all lawyers. Only the cream of the crop in those respective fields, and only after 20+ years in the field.

Of course, that assumes a normal mortgage, with no “payments go to interest only” or other malarkey.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by HarryHirsch on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:32PM (#21892696)
But to be able to play at the top of the field you'll have to have attended something like Penn Law or Yale Medicine. SUNY Downstate won't cut it.
Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by nugget on Friday December 27, 2019 @02:04PM (#21893504)
It's somewhat backwards in medicine. Many top grads stay in academics where the prestige is high but the pay is low. With the exception of elective plastics and dermatology, the highest earning physicians tend to be from middle of the road schools and work in rural areas after graduation (commonly from surgical sub-specialties).
Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by barry-cotter on Friday December 27, 2019 @05:51PM (#21895482)
It will, it’s just substantially harder. The ranks of partners at top law firms are much less prestigious than those of top law faculty. Academia cares more about prestige than basically any other sector of the economy. Even in medicine you have many, many tries at associating yourself with a high prestige institution throughout your career. If you studied at a toilet tier Caribbean medical school but ten years later you’re working at the Mayo Clinic no one will care about where you got your degree.
Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by gwbas1c on Friday December 27, 2019 @04:48PM (#21895009)
> Drop the "follow your dreams" rhetoric

The most important part of "follow your dreams" is to not let your imagination run away. You can get very close to what you want in life if you take a realistic perspective and understand basic finance.

Re:I killed my teenager’s fancy college dreams by bdcravens on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:14PM (#21892526)
Or even a modest 2000 sq ft house in the midwest for that matter