Why It’s So Hard to Change People’s Commuting Behavior

Re:Why It’s So Hard to Change People’s Commuting Behavior by TulliusCicero on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @05:01PM (#21875205)

In cities in many other countries, people do those things using public transit and walking and biking and it works fine.

Admittedly, it works not so fine in US cities...because they were built to favor driving over every other mode. Drop an American in Munich or Tokyo and suddenly you'll find them driving a whole lot less, even if they still own a car.

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Re:Why It’s So Hard to Change People’s Commuting Behavior by arkades on Tuesday December 24, 2019 @08:49PM (#21876192)

OP: “punishing personal driving penalizes people for undertaking necessary tasks using the only infrastructure reasonable in that setting.”

You: “well in other settings it works. Of course, those settings have other infrastructure.”

You can see why that doesn’t really add much.

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Re:Why It’s So Hard to Change People’s Commuting Behavior by jeddy3 on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @01:42AM (#21877256)

Your paraphrasing is really dishonest. OP never talks about any setting, only "real workers need to".

In fact you both seem to ignore the setting from the article, which is major European City

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Re:Why It’s So Hard to Change People’s Commuting Behavior by arkades on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @08:08AM (#21878355)

It’s not meant to be dishonest. I take for granted that the existence of a setting is implied, insofar as people are discussing non-hypothetical commuting.

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Re:Why It’s So Hard to Change People’s Commuting Behavior by ummonk on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @01:46AM (#21877273)

Yes, it works in dense cities. That doesn't mean it works for everyone, as Macron found out when he tried to raise petrol taxes.

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