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Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by logicchains on Thursday December 19, 2019 @07:23PM (#21840692)
In Australia at least, peanut butter and honey sandwiches are a thing. The taste is actually not bad, and it is possibly healthier than peanut butter and jam sandwiches.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by chongli on Friday December 20, 2019 @12:53AM (#21841991)
Honey is almost pure sugar. Healthier than white sugar, maybe, but unlikely to be healthier than high-quality jams made from whole fruit.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by mprovost on Friday December 20, 2019 @04:43AM (#21842831)
Jam is basically a 50/50 mixture of whole fruit and white sugar.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by krageon on Friday December 20, 2019 @05:06AM (#21842930)
That really depends on how it is made. It's not useful to make blanket statements like this when there can be a significant amount of deviation from what you expect to be true without it not being jam anymore.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by mprovost on Friday December 20, 2019 @06:56AM (#21843469)
I think the parent comment was implying that jam can be healthy just because it uses whole fruit as an ingredient. The chemistry behind turning a mixture of fruit and sugar into something called jam is pretty well known - there has to be a certain ratio of sugar for it to "set". Usually this is 1:1.

I wrote my comment because I think that people are shocked when they actually see jam being made at home and how much sugar goes into a batch.

https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/09/22/what-makes-jam-set-t...

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by Wh1zz on Friday December 20, 2019 @08:39AM (#21843999)
I am looking at a whole jar of plum jam made by my grandpa with 0 added sugar.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by throwaway_tech on Friday December 20, 2019 @09:21AM (#21844280)
Then that is not jam...jam is defined as fruit with added sugar to act as a preservative.

The question is what did you granpa use as a preservative? The preservative is going to be the difference between say: jam, marmalade, chutney, etc...

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by throwaway_tech on Friday December 20, 2019 @09:17AM (#21844252)
>but unlikely to be healthier than high-quality jams made from whole fruit.

Healthier is a bit of a misnomer here. Honey is nothing but sugar (no micro nutrients or negligible at best), still it is the easiest sugar for humans to process and convert to energy.

"high-quality jams made from whole fruit" is just a giant broad brushstroke, you may as well just broadly say fruit is healthier than honey (as if all fruit is created equally), sure there are some micronutirents in most fruits which you don't get from honey, but most fruits are also going to spike insulin...and coming back to the idea of "high-quality jams made from whole fruit", the reality is most store bought jams will be highly processed (so most of the beneficial fiber and micronutrients will be replaced with refined sugar and/or HFCS).

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by chongli on Friday December 20, 2019 @10:35AM (#21844883)
most store bought jams will be highly processed

Those are the jams I had in mind, specifically to exclude, when I used the qualifier “high-quality.” In a similar fashion, I would not consider Wonderbread to be “high-quality” bread.

Admittedly, it’s a bit of a weasel word, but I think it’s still important to recognize that jam can be healthier than honey. Homemade jam made from whole, ripe strawberries will have fibre, vitamins, and essential minerals like potassium, whereas honey does not.

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by throwaway_tech on Friday December 20, 2019 @12:15PM (#21845681)
>it’s a bit of a weasel word, but I think it’s still important to recognize that jam can be healthier than honey.

I agree with your points on vitamins/minerals (like I said above, jams will have micro-nutrients which the honey does not).

So its pros and cons not healthy/healthier...the person who obtains their micro-nutrients elsewhere doesn't need them from jam and probably better off getting the sugar/calories from honey over the fruit jam. Again the honey is just more easily converted into energy and generally will cause less of an insulin spike than sugar from jam.

So whats healthy/healthier often depends on purpose or needs...are you eating the jam/honey for energy only? Honey is better. Are you eating it to as your source of those certain vitamins/minerals? Obviously honey is void of those, so jam. That said no one eats Jam for the vitamin/mineral or fiber content, there are just better sources. Then again you may get some great anti-oxidants from various jams made from berries specifically (of course you would get the same from the berries themselves without the added sugar in jam).

Getting more into the weeds of "health", many people will "use" honey for coughs, sore throats, etc... because its anti-bacterial properties and use local honey as an anti-allergen (exposure to small dose of local pollen) all to great effect.

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by jonnyscholes on Friday December 20, 2019 @02:12AM (#21842239)
Can confirm PB&H is a thing in Aus - however peanutbutter and Vegimite is where it's at
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by TheSpiceIsLife on Friday December 20, 2019 @02:32AM (#21842297)
Hahaha, of course I know I’m not alone, but honestly didn’t think I’d see someone here saying that!

Peanut butter and Vegimite, and lots of butter.

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by mahalol on Friday December 20, 2019 @03:43AM (#21842565)
I'm so trying this with Marmite when i get back home.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by david_parrott on Friday December 20, 2019 @11:09AM (#21845149)
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by TheSpiceIsLife on Friday December 20, 2019 @05:30PM (#21847953)
Ah, I kinda forget when it’s not in the house, but randomly remember just now.

Try using meso instead of vegimite / marmite.

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by aussiegeek on Thursday December 19, 2019 @07:52PM (#21840850)
I'm curious where this is a thing more specifically, never heard of this living in Victoria and Queensland
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by zbentley on Thursday December 19, 2019 @07:54PM (#21840865)
This was often a food for kids (<10yo) in Utah, USA, and other rocky mountain states.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by JoBrad on Thursday December 19, 2019 @08:03PM (#21840911)
I've eaten this often, in the Southeast US.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by stevenwoo on Friday December 20, 2019 @01:19AM (#21842061)
There are a lot of things that go great with peanut butter and bread if you are open to it besides jam or honey - cheese, butter(toast), hazelnut spread, fresh fruit like bananas. Running out of groceries and living 20 miles from the nearest store leads one down this path of trying whatever is in the refrigerator/pantry.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by jimmux on Thursday December 19, 2019 @10:17PM (#21841481)
It was pretty normal for me in NSW. I used to add sliced banana sometimes as well.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by StuffedParrot on Thursday December 19, 2019 @08:46PM (#21841103)
I grew up eating this (and odder combinations) in new england.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by ACow_Adonis on Friday December 20, 2019 @05:50AM (#21843153)
Second Aussie checking in. Lived in every capital along the east coast, bar Hobart.

Also swear I've never heard of this in Australia :\ Make of that what you will.

Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by torstenvl on Thursday December 19, 2019 @09:24PM (#21841272)
Very common in rural or frontier USA
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by thmcmahon on Thursday December 19, 2019 @11:23PM (#21841702)
Definitely a thing growing up in central Victoria in the 80s/90s.
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by ydrol on Thursday December 19, 2019 @09:22PM (#21841267)
Was a thing for me in Queensland!
Re:Eat This Much – Automatic Meal Planner by senectus1 on Thursday December 19, 2019 @08:51PM (#21841124)
me either in WA