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Re:The Amazon Premium by kortilla on Thursday December 19, 2019 @03:35PM (#21838977)
> The value isn't in a cheaper linux server, or less expensive bandwidth. The value is me being able to develop a solution from the ground up by bolting together Web services, Amazon S3, SNS/SQS, Lambda and DynamoDB from a menu of integrated services all by myself. Period.

Cool. It sounds like money doesn’t matter to you because you’ve identified a really high margin business and time to market is critical. This doesn’t match how 99% of businesses work though.

Re:The Amazon Premium by outworlder on Thursday December 19, 2019 @04:12PM (#21839362)
> Cool. It sounds like money doesn’t matter to you because you’ve identified a really high margin business and time to market is critical. This doesn’t match how 99% of businesses work though.

Cost matters to all businesses. But you have to do proper accounting. Do I hire more people on my team to build automation to create our database clusters, or do I just punch a button and then pay the bill? There must be a point where it makes sense to roll your own, but that point is likely to be fairly high up.

Whenever I hear that someone 'can do it cheaper', I often find that the math is not correct.

By the way, if you are not big enough that the relative cost of a VM between cloud providers is the primary concern, guess what, some of the services mentioned are really cheap – in some cases cheaper than running your own in whatever provider. You don't have to maintain VMs 24/7 to store data on S3, or to make use of SNS, SQS, DynamoDB. Lambda is the poster child for not maintaining servers

If you are really tiny, go use those services instead of wasting any time spinning up servers.

Re:The Amazon Premium by leoplct on Thursday December 19, 2019 @04:55PM (#21839713)
I am using Cloud66 that gives me both the advantage. I push code to github and Cloud66 deploy to Digital Ocean. It's very easy to use and I don't need to manage my server at all. I was using Heroku before, now I am completely satisfied.

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Re:The Amazon Premium by endorphone on Thursday December 19, 2019 @03:47PM (#21839087)
To most businesses, the cost difference between AWS and barebones services like OVH is negligible. It is a rounding error compared to other operational costs.
Re:The Amazon Premium by robryan on Thursday December 19, 2019 @04:11PM (#21839349)
I would say the vast majority of SASS where the primary product isn’t some kind of heavy compute/ storage.
Re:The Amazon Premium by bduerst on Thursday December 19, 2019 @03:37PM (#21838995)
Precisely. APIs and ubiquitous services across providers has made multi-cloud possible.
Re:The Amazon Premium by spookthesunset on Thursday December 19, 2019 @09:09PM (#21841204)
Multi-cloud is a stupid idea. You absolutely should get locked into a single cloud vendor and leverage the shit out of everything they offer.

Somebody else said it best. People go to the cloud not to escape the hardware, it is to escape all the people who administrate the hardware. Truer words have never been spoken. Escaping all the gatekeepers of traditional setups adds significant value to a company.

Re:The Amazon Premium by kortilla on Sunday December 22, 2019 @02:26AM (#21855779)
> Truer words have never been spoken

That might be why uninformed people do it. But the real cost of managing your own hardware is devops, which doesn’t actually go away on the cloud.

Not using multi-cloud or not having a super trivial way to switch is just negligence and wouldn’t be tolerated in any large businesses.