Re:Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision
by jasonzemos on Thursday December 19, 2019 @02:01PM
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Is Mozilla an example for the next major adopter of Matrix or are they not? If they are, and everyone else signs up for modular.im as well: at what point does this ship of Theseus called Federation only exist inside a bottle?
Re:Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision
by derefr on Thursday December 19, 2019 @03:57PM
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WordPress exists as as OSS even though WordPress.com exists. And there's a clear migration path from being hosted by WordPress.com to running your own private WordPress.org instance (or vice-versa), that can be taken at any time if someone's needs change. I don't see what's so different here.
Re:Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision
by erikpukinskis on Friday December 20, 2019 @11:50AM
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If it were me, I would want to a) support the existing players in the ecosystem and b) do the migration piecemeal if possible.
Working with a third party lets them start standing up rooms immediately, and get their people using the new standard without being blocked on a long process of setting up their own infra. It’s federated. They can easily migrate onto their own hardware at a later date.
It also injects money into the community they are trying to support. Even if they did start running all of their own instances, I would hope they keep a support contract with Modular for that reason.
Paying Modular + using Matrix widely immediately + beginning work on their own infrastructure is a strictly bigger shot in the arm for Matrix than just putting a couple devs on pre-planning and prototyping infra would be.
Of course, we all want to see Mozilla bootstrap their own Matrix instance, but maybe the cost/benefit equation worked out differently for them than we would have expected. I can imagine this lets them replace IRC with a better solution faster while still supporting the development of an open standard by becoming a client of the company that's developing it.
Does this forebode something more sinister? I hope not...