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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by echelon on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @05:26PM (#21819608)
> Google needs to work hard to earn customer's trust. That is the basic fundamental of doing business. Microsoft is still working their asses off because of what they have done during IE era.

This. A thousand times this!

Once hero of the 2000's, Google is turning into the villain; meanwhile Microsoft has embarked on their redemption storyline.

Microsoft is a fantastic developer-centric company that has made their platform attractive to even Linux users. Google shuts down all the things you use, prices small shops out of freaking Google Maps, won't pick up the phone, ...

Google should hire Satya Nadella.

Doesn't Google understand that we should love them? That we should think they're a cool company? They've strayed so far from that. They might as well be Oracle.

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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by dragonsh on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @05:42PM (#21819760)
Google cloud head Kurian [1] is a former Oracle executive, how can you expect him to work differently when he has spend decades in oracle.

I believe google cloud platform might be slowly turning to be similar to oracle, if things do not change to care more for users. As many people noticed google like oracle started changing their products in such a way as to have lock-in like oracle.

So it’s just a matter of time when they start behaving like the old Oracle to use the lock-in to ask for price hikes.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/16/google-cloud-ceo-greene-bein...

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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by andrewmutz on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @08:55PM (#21821043)
What are examples of Google changing their products to have lock in?
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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by cbzbc on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @05:57AM (#21823704)
Additionally, he didn't have a particularly developer friendly reputation at Oracle -- and that's something they'll need within Google to attract the people who will continue to build the pipeline of features they need to attract customers.
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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by bigiain on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @08:43PM (#21820989)
Interesting observation.

Kinda make me consider the comparison with the changes to Map API pricing earlier this year. Exactly the sort of sales weasel and lawyer driven revenue booster you'd expect to have come directly out of Ellison's office...

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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by trophycase on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @10:02PM (#21821379)
You've totally drunk the Kool-Aid. Microsoft is on a redemption storyline? Windows 10 is a complete shitshow and this will likely be the last windows machine I ever personally own. Meanwhile LibreOffice suits all my needs fine where MS Office used to stand as they slowly tried to strip away the concept of software ownership and move to SAAS. Nobody uses edge anymore and Xbox is a joke. Maybe they are hustling on the B2B side, since they seem to have skyrocketing profits somehow, but I have almost no faith in them as a consumer at this point.
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