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Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @02:38AM (#21811498)
> Even more interesting to me is the idea that the American government has such a hold over the patriots in the military that they could be commanded to enforce tyranny.

Tyranny generally doesn't come overnight. There are plenty of things you can ask soldiers to do that they'll feel uncomfortable about but still do it, and then in eighteen months when it's time to reenlist they decline. A decade later you've got only zealots.

> Or, that owning an assault rifle is some antidote against the best funded military in the world, which has been fighting armed insurgencies for years.

Because we sure handed it to those Iraqis, and the Vietnamese before that.

Counter-insurgency is hard. Having planes and nukes doesn't help you when the bridges and cities are friendly assets. Morale is low when you're fighting your own people. You can't guard every military resource with hundreds of soldiers, but that means the one guarded by twenty can be overrun by a hundred civilians if they're armed.

And it only takes one bullet to kill Hitler.

Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by tomlockwood on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @04:44AM (#21812100)
So what I'm hearing you say is that you feel an american insurgency will be effective and persistent. Where is the confederacy?
Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @01:35PM (#21827784)
You may recall they did manage to put up quite a fight once upon a time. But an insurgency requires a sufficient number of people who feel strongly enough to take up arms. I think if you did a poll today you'd find that the pro-slavery contingent is well below the threshold.
Re:United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year... by tomlockwood on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @03:59PM (#21829386)
> You may recall they did manage to put up quite a fight once upon a time.

If I recall correctly they both lost and lost their rights - whether we consider those rights the right to own slaves or leave the union.

> But an insurgency requires a sufficient number of people who feel strongly enough to take up arms.

Not true. "The accidental guerilla" by David Kilcullen is a great book on this idea. I'm wondering though for what reason you feel the confederates felt less strongly than gun owners do today.