News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court keeps ruling barring prosecution for s... by rayiner on Monday December 16, 2019 @02:35PM (#21806305)
> If the government is jailing people for not attending religious events that counts well enough

But that's not what was happening, right?

> I have no problem with faith and churches, but when they start getting political

I disagree with the notion that religion must be a private matter. Religion is not only a matter of personal belief. Its a framework for organizing communities and raising children. Forcing people to keep religion private amounts to an infringement on "the free exercise thereof."

Notably, religion in the U.S. has always been political. Many of the original colonies were founded by religious people who were too radical for Europe. They didn't create a Constitution where the right to "free exercise" implied banning the very religious communities they had come to America to establish. Rather, religion has always been a part of peoples' politics. It played an outsized role in everything from abolition to women's suffrage to the civil rights movement.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court keeps ruling barring prosecution for s... by munk-a on Monday December 16, 2019 @02:55PM (#21806533)
Regarding what's happening, it's a bit of a generous read potentially but I think these lines are pretty clear at stating that it may be happening and the court is concerned that it is happening or that an overeager ruling would endorse it happening.

> Boise said it does not issue citations if the city’s three homeless shelters are full. The plaintiffs said that the two Christian-based shelters have policies to never turn away anyone for lack of space, and so police have continuously enforced the ordinances. > > The 9th Circuit noted that those facilities could still refuse to shelter homeless people who exceed limits of the number of days they can stay or who object to mandatory religious programs.

As to your other point

> I disagree with the notion that religion must be a private matter. Religion is not only a matter of personal belief. Its a framework for organizing communities and raising children. Forcing people to keep religion private amounts to an infringement on "the free exercise thereof."

That's fair, it definitely needs to be a balance, it's my opinion that things like Prosperity Gospel not being outright illegal and pundits like Pat Robertson are good examples that it has gone too far, but I definitely see and understand concerns about going too secular. I'm privately faithful and secular in nature, but that's just me and I understand that other folks have their own understandings of faith and religion.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court keeps ruling barring prosecution for s... by FireBeyond on Monday December 16, 2019 @02:52PM (#21806501)
> But that's not what was happening, right?

Directly? No.

"If there is a homeless shelter open, we can cite and jail you for sleeping outdoors".

"But one of the shelters has a policy of always being 'open', even if there are no beds. They also require mandatory religious activity and participation."

"If there is a homeless shelter open, we can cite and jail you for sleeping outdoors".

Is a fairly strong indirect link.