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Re:The Society of the Spectacle by 52-6F-62 on Monday December 16, 2019 @12:25PM (#21804850)
I did look this up. How this can be construed as a coherent argument in a timed debate is... it's nearly unbelievable to me.

Yes, they fit in far more information and logical constructs than I could in that kind of time but it throws all oratory practice out the window. It's not just incoherent, indistinguishable babbling, it's also terrible to listen to with those deep, throaty breaths he has to take in order to accomplish his speed read...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZeDq90Ar4k

I had no idea these courses were carried out this way.

Re:The Society of the Spectacle by zozbot234 on Monday December 16, 2019 @12:29PM (#21804895)
The thing is, so-called "debate" is a competitive sport with its own weird rules. You are incented to babble a lot because then the opponent has to waste time on countering what you said - since that's what the rules require. It doesn't have to make sense, it still confers an advantage.
Re:The Society of the Spectacle by shantly on Monday December 16, 2019 @12:41PM (#21805033)
IMO most games—especially ones that are more intellectual than physical—get worse over time as the rules get more and more "gamed" and "correct play" gets nailed down & optimized. Kills all the fun.
Re:The Society of the Spectacle by Der_Einzige on Monday December 16, 2019 @12:27PM (#21804870)
It's not courses. It's tournaments. And the people who speak fastest and read the most obscure arguments are the ones who win the most.
Re:The Society of the Spectacle by 52-6F-62 on Monday December 16, 2019 @12:38PM (#21805004)
What good are the arguments if they can't be understood. And I don't mean for their philosophical obscurity, but practically. Even slowing down that audio doesn't render discernible words.