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Re:Climate talks break up with no agreement on carbon trading by chewz on Sunday December 15, 2019 @10:32AM (#21796667)
This is the thesis of Naomi Klein books. Current political system and pseudo-market solutions are incapable of solving the climate problem. And so far, unfortunately it is proven right.

I do agree in principle (with some reservations perhaps).

[] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21913812-this-changes-ev...

Re:Climate talks break up with no agreement on carbon trading by dnautics on Sunday December 15, 2019 @01:08PM (#21797757)
Except that if we instituted a simple carbon auction it's provably effective (not just theoretical, it very effective for NOx and SOx). I suppose that's not a pseudo market solution, that's a real market solution, unlike all of the trading proposals being put forth at the moment.
Re:Climate talks break up with no agreement on carbon trading by marcosdumay on Sunday December 15, 2019 @02:19PM (#21798287)
An auction is a tax in disguise, the only difference is that if the government doesn't get the quantity exactly right it will either make the whole thing toothless or destroy its own economy.

About NOx and SOx, those are local pollutants. Local problems are much easier to fix.

Re:Climate talks break up with no agreement on carbon trading by dnautics on Monday December 16, 2019 @12:33AM (#21801012)
NOx and SOx are not local pollutants. NOx/SOx emissions in one part of the world cause acid rain in other parts.
Re:Climate talks break up with no agreement on carbon trading by ianai on Sunday December 15, 2019 @11:12AM (#21796900)
Does the book offer alternatives?
Re:Climate talks break up with no agreement on carbon trading by martythemaniak on Sunday December 15, 2019 @11:16AM (#21796929)
Her husband was mulling a run for leader of canada's left-wing party, so they tried to make this part of their official policy: https://leapmanifesto.org/en/the-leap-manifesto/

Whether you think that's an alternative, or a <expletive deleted> is up to you.